Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Found it:"But this time, Luke was ready. He placed his own hand in front of Raynar's and rooted himself in the heart of the Force, and when he did that, he became the very essence of the immovable object. Nothing could dislodge him-not one of Lando's asteroid tuggers, not the Megador's sixteen ion engines, not the black hole at the center of the galaxy itself."
IMO, it sounds too specific to not be hyperbole. It sounds like the narrative is just trying to make a point that Luke was really Force rooting himself. A black hole had no bearing on the present situation, no effect. Why mention other than for impression? Like saying "Not even God himself could sink this ship." Hyperbole.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Then like what Q99 said, I don't think the writers knows what a black hole is. For a while I thought that whatever is going on in that chapter, was taking place next to the SMBH, which would make a little sense. But it's not. The SMBH has absolutely no bearing on the events. They're not in orbit around it, they're not being pulled in by it. And of course, the galaxy isn't rotated by it, and nothing is being sucked in to it. If any of that were true, than Luke being unmoved by it would mean that whatever planet he's on would go zooming out from under his feet leaving him in vacuum. Or he'd be killed while his body tears in to the hull of whatever ship he was on as it goes zooming away from him. He'd be rooted in space-time while the universe zips past him--including Raynar.None of that makes any sense if what the writer said was true. Unless it was a hyperbolic statement meant to convey the event's intensity.
As much as I hate to take sides here, I'd have to say this seems pretty darn likely. 😬
I've encountered this discussion in other Versus forums all over the net, and they all say it's Hyperbole, too.
Someone could always write Troy Denning and ask if he was being literal with the passage or not, though. artist
No it wouldn't. It would make him the most powerful sunofabitch around. Which he generally is regarded to be, considering how he reached the same amount of power Anakin could have achieved.
People don't want Luke to be that powerful for some reason. They try and downplay everything he has ever done.
Neph has a point there. Nothing stops him, and most stuff is just an incovienience to how he should be if PIS and CIS were gone.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes, and Luke gets stopped so often.
It doesn't have to be often, if it happens at all. Luke is put into bad positions many times after that fight takes place. In his fights with Lumiya, Caedus, and even less powerful people he does not come across as invincible, and against Abeloth he is clearly much weaker. The Ones are powerful but they not that powerful bro.
Apart from blackhole it mentions Lando's asteroid tuggers, and Megador's sixteen ion engines. Seems like examples that couldn't move Luke. In any case the implication was that no Force user would be able to move him at that point, not even someone empowered by millions of killiks. And, yes, it seems like he was in the zone as at that point he had perfect clarity and confidence in his mind.
Originally posted by Pwned
No it wouldn't. It would make him the most powerful sunofabitch around. Which he generally is regarded to be, considering how he reached the same amount of power Anakin could have achieved.People don't want Luke to be that powerful for some reason. They try and downplay everything he has ever done.
It'd make him far more unstoppably powerful than even his high imply.
He is the most powerful around no doubt, but the black hole thing is still hyperbole because it's just too crazy big.
Or, alternatively, it doesn't really state at what distance from the SMBH. At some distance it could be believable.
Gideon made a convincing argument that it was hyperbolic. Lucien, though not nearly as intelligent, made an adequate case.
But the fact remains that UnuThul was being empowered by the Force potential of [millions? billions?] of Killiks. That is to say, the telekinesis he was resisting was so far above what the vast majority (if not entirety) of the Force adept pantheon could bring to bear that it could very well not be hyperbolic. The engines of a star dreadnought and black hole may be in fact the only accurate measuring sticks of the kind of force Luke defended against.
Originally posted by Q99
It'd make him far more unstoppably powerful than even his high imply.He is the most powerful around no doubt, but the black hole thing is still hyperbole because it's just too crazy big.
Or, alternatively, it doesn't really state at what distance from the SMBH. At some distance it could be believable.
No doubt just like Vitiate dominates hundreds of Sith Lords at once, or kills his entire Dark Council by himself, yet loses to a Knight and his trusty Astrodroid.
Or Sidious tears the surface off of worlds, yet Leia can knock him over like a senile OAP and Han can shoot him in the back.
The Starkiller can take on the Emperor in direct combat, yet struggles against a single Red Gaurd.
No, but Force Gods are generally immune to PIS. Nothing dumb ever happens to them.
Originally posted by Shadowbroker
Short of very particular and extremely potent attacks, the kind of power Luke demonstrates at the end of the Swarm War should be sufficient to defend against standard attacks from pretty much anyone bar Abeloth.
Corrected.
IDK, does ever he get the crap kicked out of him after that? I'm not aware of Luke jobbing like a motha after that quotes comes out.