Abeloth -vs- Darth Nihilus

Started by Shadowbroker14 pages

That's about right.

After that feat there was so few examples of Luke being at least Force pushed that I can even recall all of them.
After that feat Caedus is legitimately the only Sith to Force push Luke in his prime, when he pushed him into vines. After that we have Vestara's master Force push him inside a lift but Luke was Force exhausted and that Force push didn't do anything to him. Then Luke got blasted by Abeloth's wave from which Luke unlike Sith quickly recovered and chased her up. Then Luke again is exhausted after pulling Callista's spirit out, yet, when 24 Sith attack him, Ben and Vestara, he was still capable to defend against Force pushes but he had to go along with them as he was unable to resist them completely. After that not even Abeloth was portrayed to ever successfully use TK on him.

At least he can't absorb lightning, yet, even Abeloth's lightning was only weakening him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
@ Lucian: I don't think its as illogical as you say. He just anchored himself to the floor of the ship he was on. The SMBH is just an example of how immovable he was.

Besides, its still canon.

I'm good with this. Keeping it a metaphor, instead of a statement of fact, is fine.

Why would an example need to be a metaphor?

Because unless it actually makes sense, it can't be anything but. Just like my Titanic example earlier.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No doubt just like Vitiate dominates hundreds of Sith Lords at once, or kills his entire Dark Council by himself, yet loses to a Knight and his trusty Astrodroid.

Or Sidious tears the surface off of worlds, yet Leia can knock him over like a senile OAP and Han can shoot him in the back.

The Starkiller can take on the Emperor in direct combat, yet struggles against a single Red Gaurd.

The scale's much farther off than even those.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
There are space stations bigger than that. It's not the power of the gravitational pull of the black hole, its how close you get to it. A supernova several lightyears wide is a greater threat than a black hole.
That doesn't change the fact that the black hole has more power. 131

Edit: Narrative hyperbole can sit down and shut the **** up when put next to feats.

If he was powerful enough to use telekinesis to survive in the Event Horizon of a supermassive black hole, he could literally telekinetically throw the planets of a solar system into a sun.

It's a fluffy narrative hyperbole bit. Nothing more.

Originally posted by NemeBro
That doesn't change the fact that the black hole has more power. 131
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Originally posted by NemeBro
Edit: Narrative hyperbole can sit down and shut the **** up when put next to feats.

If he was powerful enough to use telekinesis to survive in the Event Horizon of a supermassive black hole, he could literally telekinetically throw the planets of a solar system into a sun.

It's a fluffy narrative hyperbole bit. Nothing more.

True dat.

True dat y'all indeed inevitable black gang member!

Love Harry Partridge.

Well put.

Just for comparison here is what another Thul's Force push did to Luke:

"Then the figure flicked one of his hands, and Luke found himself flying backward, bouncing off YVH droids and tumbling out of control. He reached out in the Force, grabbing at passing hatches, the ceiling, even Raynar himself, but he was whirling too fast to catch hold of anything.

He hit the end of the corridor with a tremendous clung, unsure whether he was upside down or sideways, then crashed to the floor struggling to remain conscious.

By the time his eyes came back into focus, the corridor had erupted into a crashing storm of cannon bolts and shatter gun pellets.

Luke rolled to his feet . . . and watched in astonishment as his helmet dropped to the floor in two pieces. He glanced at the wall behind him and saw a fist-deep depression where its impact had dented the durasteel.

"

Luke was using all his effort to slow his fly and still dented durasteel with his head. Pretty powerful. 😄

The debate is way "olded",but this match had drawn my attention.

Nihilus wins here for the fact he's a Void in the Force,while Abeloth it is a part of the Force,it is strongly attuned to it.

I see that many still confusing the Ones as being the Force itself,but that's not true at all.

The Ones are believed to be in fact what Celestial/Architects became (better said their descendants) ... And I do not say they were the "Force",but the "most perfect embodiments"( the reasons are obvious) and it was they who held the balance between the light and the dark side,Jedi and Sith thought so.

Celestial were actually an ancient race,not the "Force" itself, just as like they would be in our way as "Angels " almost as us but more advanced,and they had devices that allowed them to build or realign systems not they had the power by themselves. Species like Gree,Kwa,Sharu,Colum , Killiks,Humans,and Taung,Breeds,Colum,Gree,Sharu, and Kwa all came into contact with the Celestials.

This I think explains why the Son had remorses killing his sister as well.

And the Ones also have the accolade of being more powerful than anyone else in TCW, which overwrites any C-canon elements of the Legends continuity.

Abeloth stomps.

ABELOTH SLAUGHTERHOUSE

Nihilius was designed to be defeated by the Exile, so putting him up against other beings is wishy washy at best. Though, based on his abilities, it would SEEM that he MIGHT be able to put up a fight against god-like force entities who are NOT wounds in the force.

Just to be safe, I'd team Nihilus up with Traya, as she also had an incredibly powerful draining ability (insta kill 4 Jedi Masters?? jeezus).

Originally posted by Battlemaster
Well put.

Good story by the way Master. Happy to see one has realized that Nihilus is a black hole,a void in which the Force itself is destroyed.

If some1 interested I'm writing a Nihilus novel.

But I heard still some that say that Abeloth is the Force itself and Nihilus can't eat her because Nihilus feeds off of the Force(and destroys it in turn) from people and planets.

But I don't get it,what is the difference if you drink water from a bottle,or from the ocean? Is still WATER!!! 🙂 BattleMaster

Abeloth fought Luke and Krayt at the same time. That's a bit above anything Nihilus can do.