The Sky Father Challenge

Originally posted by HumanMovieGuide
You mean earlier in the thread? The text downright says "Far beyond the fields we know, [B]the core of an ancient galaxy... explodes!"

Considering the core of a galaxy is a bunch of stars tightly compressed, that should be the easiest part of a galaxy to destroy. Get a couple of them to go supernova and the rest should handle itself. Heck we even see in every panel of those pages a bunch of stars and planets survived that explosion.

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Actually the core of a galaxy is a supermassive blackhole . And that statement from Marvel "the core of an ancient galaxy explodes" only further shows Marvel's poor scientific literacy as a black hole doesn't blow up(unless and until you count a gamma ray burst as a black hole exploding , which I doubt Marvel writers were aware of during those times) .

I get the arguments being made here but the suggestion that "because there are hundreds of sky fathers means they can't all be galaxy busters" doesn't exactly mean much. That's like saying the Hulk, Thor e.t.c can't bust planets (or seriously damage them) because they're all on Earth. Not every fight between the Hulk and Thor will be on a planetary scale, same with sky fathers. Not all their fights will rock the galaxy. In many cases,like the Odin and Seth one, they seem to be fighting on a different scale of existence; this goes for Surtur forging the Twilight Sword (he actually destroyed Beta Ray Bills galaxy doing this). If we have on-panel evidence that Odin and Surtur busted galaxies, then we have to accept it..as comic book logic (faulty it may be).

Exactly. This denial of feats is pathetic. You want something more recent? Uthana-Thoth was powerful enough to stop his universe from collapsing. Odin could match and even overpower him in battle, and only lost when he brought his two strongest lietenants to help.

Originally posted by HumanMovieGuide
Also what happened to the Surtur respect thread? I remember trekking through it a while back and they posted the fight that happened later in that story and Surtur dominated Odin without much trouble. I'm not an expert on the guy, does the Surtur have methods of powering or charging himself up? Would explain why he seems more powerful than normal both in power and in beating down Odin in that story.

I just found some Youtube videos of Surtur, maybe I could find more context there. I notice there seems to be a tendency to leave some important info out of certain feats.

If you're talking about the time Surtur invaded Asgard, Surtur's twilight sword was blocking most of Odin's power.Odin's ability to grow to the same size as Surtur(1000 feet tall) and who knows what other abilities were blocked by Surtur's twilight sword.Surtur also stated that he becomes more powerful whenever he gets nearer the eternal flame.Surtur also stated that if he lit his twilight sword, he could potentially destroy the Universe.Don't know if this is true.I'm willing to say, he might be capable of destroying the 8 realms(Earth for some unknown cosmic reason is always spared) since the Norse Pantheon has a Ragnarok cycle in the Marvel Universe.Putting logic and and physics on skyfather level beings is futile.Their source of power is either magical or cosmical.Dormammu a peer to the likes of Zeus and Odin almost destroyed the Dark Dimension just by throwing temper tantrums after losing to Dr Strange in the pincers of power.