Ozymandias vs...Black Panther

Originally posted by Silent Master
At best it shows is that Ozy has Taskmaster level speed, too bad Taskmaster is several dozen times more skilled.

Lastly it doesn't take exceptional skill to block or parry an attack. All it takes is beginning technique and necessary speed and reflexes. This is common sense.

Originally posted by h1a8
You also mean reflexes too since BOTH reflexes and speed are needed.
But how did Ozy he acquire those speed and reflexes? Was it through his training to become an exceptional fighter? I mean what other human characters acquired the necessary skill and ability to do such things through training? Using logic, it makes 100% sense that Ozy has grade A fighting skills since he acquired something that no non grade A fighter has ever acquired through mere fighting training.

Lastly it doesn't take exceptional skill to block or parry an attack. All it takes is beginning technique and necessary speed and reflexes. This is common sense.

If you want to prove Ozy has A list skill, then start posting HTH skill feats.

BTW, if it doesn't take exceptional skill to block, then it also doesn't take exceptional skill to catch an attack.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you want to prove Ozy has A list skill, then start posting HTH skill feats.

BTW, if it doesn't take exceptional skill to block, then it also doesn't take exceptional skill to catch an attack.

Depends on fast the attack is. The proof is that he caught a bullet dude.
Use common sense. It is impossible for a human to catch a bullet in a reality situation if that human wasn't an exceptional grade A fighter. If you disagree then name me any non grade A fighter that can do it.

H1a8 is troll and sock, what else is new!!

Originally posted by h1a8
Depends on fast the attack is. The proof is that he caught a bullet dude.
Use common sense. It is impossible for a human to catch a bullet in a reality situation if that human wasn't an exceptional grade A fighter. If you disagree then name me any non grade A fighter that can do it.

It's also impossible for a human to deflect a bullet back at the shooter in a reality situation, so why does cathing a bullet require more skill than deflecting one back at the shooter?

BTW, I'm waiting for you to list some A list HTH feats for Ozy.

Wesley/The Killer from Wanted deflected a bullet with a very small knife back into the guy who shot at him's throat. Any deflection feat, much less deflection back at the firing source is much more impressive than catching a bullet.

Originally posted by KingD19
Wesley/The Killer from Wanted deflected a bullet with a very small knife back into the guy who shot at him's throat. Any deflection feat, much less deflection back at the firing source is much more impressive than catching a bullet.

Not according to h1a8, he's saying that catching a bullet proves exceptional A list skill, whereas deflecting bullets back at the shooter doesn't require exceptional skill.

His reasoning should prove to be amusing.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's also impossible for a human to deflect a bullet back at the shooter in a reality situation, so why does cathing a bullet require more skill than deflecting one back at the shooter?

BTW, I'm waiting for you to list some A list HTH feats for Ozy.

Deflecting a bullet and deflecting one back at the shooter are two different things.
The latter takes far more skill than the former. But catching one still requires more skill (just of a different type) since one would have to use soft hands (absorb the bullet) which would require not only insane speed and reflexes but perfect timing to be in rhythm with the bullet (so that it doesn't penetrate their hand).

This skill was only required through training to fight.

Then you would be waiting forever since catching a bullet is proof of grade A fighting ability. It makes no sense to be able to do something like that and be only a mediocre fighter.

Lastly, what determines a good hth skill feat? Is it who you beat? If so, then what determines that who you beat are worth considering? I can ask this question until it boils down to the source (beating up on a bunch of thugs).

Originally posted by h1a8
Deflecting a bullet and deflecting one back at the shooter are two different things.
The latter takes far more skill than the former. But catching one still requires more skill (just of a different type) since one would have to use soft hands (absorb the bullet) which would require not only insane speed and reflexes but perfect timing to be in rhythm with the bullet (so that it doesn't penetrate their hand).

This skill was only required through training to fight.

Then you would be waiting forever since catching a bullet is proof of grade A fighting ability. It makes no sense to be able to do something like that and be only a mediocre fighter.

Lastly, what determines a good hth skill feat? Is it who you beat? If so, then what determines that who you beat are worth considering? I can ask this question until it boils down to the source (beating up on a bunch of thugs).

Catching a bullet doesn't prove fighting skill, nor is it harder than deflecting bullets back at the shooter.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Catching a bullet doesn't prove fighting skill, nor is it harder than deflecting bullets back at the shooter.

It does prove fighting skill. How else would you acquire the ability then without being superhuman? You keep avoiding that question I see.

If you don't absorb the bullet then it would simply go through your hands. Do you know what I mean by absorbing the bullet?

Also you are avoiding

Lastly, what determines a good hth skill feat? Is it who you beat? If so, then what determines that who you beat are worth considering? I can ask this question until it boils down to the source (beating up on a bunch of thugs).

He didn't absorb the bullet. He had on an armored glove, just like the rest of his suit.

In the comic, he didn't fully absorb the bullet either, but was bleeding.

Are we only discussing the bullet catching feat now? Have we moved on from Ozy having spidersense?

Originally posted by KingD19
He didn't absorb the bullet. He had on an armored glove, just like the rest of his suit.

He didnt have a glove in the comic.

I'm curious as to how catching a bullet equates to being a great H2H fighter? Having quick reflexes doesnt mean you have the skill or technique to use them during a fight.

Originally posted by KingD19
He didn't absorb the bullet. He had on an armored glove, just like the rest of his suit.

Prove that he had on armored gloves or that his gloves were bullet proof. Because then you would have to prove that CA's gloves are bullet proof since they endured forces much greater than bullets.

Originally posted by h1a8
It does prove fighting skill. How else would you acquire the ability then without being superhuman? You keep avoiding that question I see.

If you don't absorb the bullet then it would simply go through your hands. Do you know what I mean by absorbing the bullet?

I'm still waiting for proof that Ozy has A list HTH skill.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm still waiting for proof that Ozy has A list HTH skill.

Since your opinion of proof is different than mine then why don't you answer what determines a good hth skill feat?

Originally posted by h1a8
Since your opinion of proof is different than mine then why don't you answer what determines a good hth skill feat?

To start with, feats that actually have him using HTH skills.

Same way you can say Ali or whoever was a good fighter.

Their win/loss record against decent opponents.

As an aside, h1 do you follow any sports?

Originally posted by Silent Master
To start with, feats that actually have him using HTH skills.

Circular reasoning huh?
What are feats showing HTH skill especially those of the grade A kind? Blocking, parrying,...?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Same way you can say Ali or whoever was a good fighter.

Their win/loss record against decent opponents.

As an aside, h1 do you follow any sports?

How do you determine a good skilled fighter in comics?