Originally posted by h1a8
Magik has to be in her domain to access that power.
She just can't gesture and then both her and her opponent is in her domain.Even if she could then that would be leaving the battlefield, which is not allowed.
She can bring her domain to Earth. So she's not leaving.
But she CAN BFR every other Worthy member ,at once.
So it becomes The Phoenix 5.... against Kuurth.
She then brings Limbo to Earth
Depowers him.
Then.....wins.
Magik could solo this.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She can bring her domain to Earth. So she's not leaving.But she CAN BFR every other Worthy member ,at once.
So it becomes The Phoenix 5.... against Kuurth.
She then brings Limbo to Earth
Depowers him.Then.....wins.
Magik could solo this.
2. A portal, which is located on the battlefield, and that leads to another dimension, still allows the person who goes through it to leave the battlefield.
Think of it this way, if an observer was watching two combatants fight on the battlefield then suddenly Magik and her opponent entered her domain then the observer wouldn't see them anymore since they are no longer on the battlefield but in her domain instead.
The spirit of the rule would be violated regardless.
Magik doesn't go through the portals with her targets...... She closes them behind them.
And with your first point.....she did beforehand, not sure why suddenly this isn't proof she can't lol
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Magik doesn't go through the portals with her targets...... She closes them behind them.And with your first point.....she did beforehand, not sure why suddenly this isn't proof she can't lol
Let's assume she can, just like in the scan you showed.
You didn't address ALL my points. The other point was that would be considered leaving the battlefield (which is against the rules). The very scan above shows this. The men are no longer on the battlefield.
Originally posted by h1a8
You just gave proof of her Bfr people, not suddenly making her and her opponent become in limbo.Let's assume she can, just like in the scan you showed.
You didn't address ALL my points. The other point was that would be considered leaving the battlefield (which is against the rules). The very scan above shows this. The men are no longer on the battlefield.
My first scan, posted on the previous page, addressed this.
She brought Limbo to Earth.
So let's say the two teams face off.
Magik sends the Worthy into Limbo.
Kuurth alone remains, because....well, he can't be BFRd.
She then brings Limbo to the battlefield (as she did when she created the prisons around the world to contain rhe P5's enemies).
The battlefield is now Limbo on Earth. OP never specifies it is limited to Earth, btw.
Magik is now all powerful, as she is now in her domain. Uses the Sword.
This, by the way, is only Magik. We are ignoring the fact that the other P5 members are there. And that every single time a P5 member is defeated, the others become stronger.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My first scan, posted on the previous page, addressed this.She brought Limbo to Earth.
So let's say the two teams face off.
Magik sends the Worthy into Limbo.
Kuurth alone remains, because....well, he can't be BFRd.
She then brings Limbo to the battlefield (as she did when she created the prisons around the world to contain rhe P5's enemies).
The battlefield is now Limbo on Earth. OP never specifies it is limited to Earth, btw.
Magik is now all powerful, as she is now in her domain. Uses the Sword.
This, by the way, is only Magik. We are ignoring the fact that the other P5 members are there. And that every single time a P5 member is defeated, the others become stronger.
Wrong. If she enters limbo then she disappears from the battlefield.
The battlefield is a featureless environment that is 0.5km in distance.
The entire Earth is not the battlefield.
Originally posted by h1a8
Wrong. If she enters limbo then she disappears from the battlefield.
The battlefield is a featureless environment that is 0.5km in distance.
The entire Earth is not the battlefield.
But Limbo is on the battlefield. It IS the battlefield.
See my previous scan. She brought Hell to Earth. That doesn't mean Earth was replaced, or that continent was suddenly replaced. No.
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Unless otherwise specified in the OP, the default battlefield will be a completely flat, featureless, and indestructible plain that stretches from horizon to horizon, with no mountains, forests, cliffs, valleys, rivers, lakes, etc. The only 'feature' of note is the ground beneath the characters' feet. But as mentioned above: it is still always assumed that a character's base powers are active and working to their optimum efficiency in versus matches, therefore this default battlefield would essentially morph to accommodate the characters' powers when need be.
This last point even ignores mine, about bringing Limbo to Earth - but if needed, she can.
Moreover, you kinda ignored all the other points.
1. She doesn't have to enter the stepping discs to BFR. So match starts, the rest of the Worthy all get sent to Limbo.
2. That leaves Kuurth against the Phoenix 5.
3. IF any of the 5 get defeated, the remaining ones get stronger.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85If we take Magik out, do you think Kuurth could take the P5 (or better P4)?
This last point even ignores mine, about bringing Limbo to Earth - but if needed, she can.Moreover, you kinda ignored all the other points.
1. She doesn't have to enter the stepping discs to BFR. So match starts, the rest of the Worthy all get sent to Limbo.
2. That leaves Kuurth against the Phoenix 5.
3. IF any of the 5 get defeated, the remaining ones get stronger.
Originally posted by wxyz
Assuming Magik can't sever Kuurths' power source.What evidence is there the P5 can put him down?
Even if Kuurth defeats 4 of them and leaves one of the P5 at full power, can that one person put Kuurth down?
The reverse is also true.
Kuurth could maybe take out Namor and Colossus (maybe).
Emma was literally smashed into bits and thrown into space. Didn't hurt her, and she turned Thor into Swiss cheese.
Cyclops was existing simultaneously all around the world,and was immune to physical and mental damage.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But Limbo is on the battlefield. It IS the battlefield.See my previous scan. She brought Hell to Earth. That doesn't mean Earth was replaced, or that continent was suddenly replaced. No.
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This last point even ignores mine, about bringing Limbo to Earth - but if needed, she can.
Moreover, you kinda ignored all the other points.
1. She doesn't have to enter the stepping discs to BFR. So match starts, the rest of the Worthy all get sent to Limbo.
2. That leaves Kuurth against the Phoenix 5.
3. IF any of the 5 get defeated, the remaining ones get stronger.
Wrong. If she travels to limbo then she would disappear off the battlefield. Stop being stubborn now. You can't be right all the time.
Fighters viewed from spectators would see her disappear (just like the men she Bfr) from the battlefield. They walk around searching for her saying, "where the hell did she go?"
Her base powers work on the battlefield yes.
Her disappearing off the battlefield is breaking the rules. Otherwise she can stalemate anyone that can't travel to limbo by simply going to limbo and staying there indefinitely.
Originally posted by h1a8
Wrong. If she travels to limbo then she would disappear off the battlefield. Stop being stubborn now. You can't be right all the time.Fighters viewed from spectators would see her disappear (just like the men she Bfr) from the battlefield. They walk around searching for her saying, "where the hell did she go?"
Her base powers work on the battlefield yes.
Her disappearing off the battlefield is breaking the rules. Otherwise she can stalemate anyone that can't travel to limbo by simply going to limbo and staying there indefinitely.
She's bringing Limbo to her.
When she deals with the other Worthy, she's not traveling with them. DO YOI NOT UNDERSTAND THIS? Or are you deliberately trying to be obtuse?
Once more:. WHEN SENDING THE OTHER FOUR WORTHYS TO LIMBO, SHE DOES NOT GO WITH THEM.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
If we take Magik out, do you think Kuurth could take the P5 (or better P4)?
So Thor, whilst injured, could fight Angrir and Nuul on his own. Had to resort to BFRing Nuul, sure, but he still fought them.
Whilst sharing power with the other 4, Cyclops alone could stop an enraged Thor with his index finger, casually:
And this is when he only had 20% of the PF.
When he had 50%, him and Emma were having a psychic dinner, whilst Xavier was fighting them mentally, and the X-men (heavy hitters like Storm etc) PLUS the Avengers (Thor/Rulk/Hulk etc) were fighting them:
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Note the last scan. They weren't even using their full power still.
When he had 100%? He was all over the entire globe, ripping it apart whilst simultaneously fighting everyone at once, and was immune to all physical damage:
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Even adamantium claws through his head did nothing:
And he was existing across time and space:
https://i.postimg.cc/sx3NNmBK/RCO011.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/hjWw9cck/RCO012.jpg
So if you were to ask me if a powerful tank who has a big hammer could take the P5 down? No, lol. Even if Magik wasn't present.
