Full power Kuurth vs Superman

Originally posted by carver9
No, just hell no. You aren't always right and I'm pretty sure you might not be right this time, I just don't have the comic in front of me right now.

Colossus was above the 75-80 ton class since the 90's. 😕

You are getting your Colossus mixed up. He really didn't have any low fts during this era either when its concerning his strength.

I'm right more than you are, which is generally enough for me.

No, he wasn't. His feats were too inconsistent to put him higher on a consistent basis.

He had low durability ones though, and with Colossus his durability has always been more impressive than his strength.

He wasn't a consistently class 100 guy until Whedon brought him back to life.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm right more than you are, which is generally enough for me.

No, he wasn't. His feats were too inconsistent to put him higher on a consistent basis.

He had low durability ones though, and with Colossus his durability has always been more impressive than his strength.

He wasn't a consistently class 100 guy until Whedon brought him back to life.

I agree, his durability fts were all over the place but his strength was consistent. Back in the 80's, you might have an argument for him not being a class 100 but during the 90's his strength jumped significantly. Don't understand why you can't accept this, especially since we both know he has the fts backing this up.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree, his durability fts were all over the place but his strength was consistent. Back in the 80's, you might have an argument for him not being a class 100 but during the 90's his strength jumped significantly. Don't understand why you can't accept this, especially since we both know he has the fts backing this up.

His strength feats averaged out at about 75-80, which was why I said it.

His strength jumped during the Morlock Massacre, yes, but before that he had been weaker in the first place.

Don't presume to tell me what I do or don't know, please. That kind of patronising attitude won't wash.

Originally posted by ODG
Colossusnaut's appearances should make it clear that the more he revels in destruction, the more power he accesses.

You should also recognize that Cytorrak doesn't make all of his avatars equal.

This is clear because Colossusnaut isn't equal to Juggernaut. It depends on Cytorrak's mood. And he has fluctuated a single avatar's power, Juggernaut, numerous times.

That's fine, it's usually shown, stated and explained or the writer makes up his own powerset. We don't have that here with colossusnaut, we have to go with what was shown at that time and that was his bones breaking.

Originally posted by ODG
In the face of these facts, reverse-projecting Colossusnaut's stats/powers onto FP Kuurth is dubious.

Ok, i'll give it another try. I am working on firewall upgrade so couldnt come up with a better example, let's say I gave carver 5 bucks, he pisses me off and I take it back and give it to H1. Did I give h1 less than what I gave Carver?

I can withold a buck(durability) and give him 4 but the only way to know is if H1 tells us that he only got 4 or I come out and say I gave him 4 only. We don't have that from Colossus or from Cytorrak. We have to go by what was shown at that time and that was Colossunaut with powers taken from FP kurrth had his bones broken.

This is why I believe superman can hurt fp kurrth and have him coming up on top.

Originally posted by Diesldude
That's fine, it's usually shown, stated and explained or the writer makes up his own powerset. We don't have that here with colossusnaut, we have to go with what was shown at that time and that was his bones breaking.

Ok, i'll give it another try. I am working on firewall upgrade so couldnt come up with a better example, let's say I gave carver 5 bucks, he pisses me off and I take it back and give it to H1. Did I give h1 less than what I gave Carver?

I can withold a buck(durability) and give him 4 but the only way to know is if H1 tells us that he only got 4 or I come out and say I gave him 4 only. We don't have that from Colossus or from Cytorrak. We have to go by what was shown at that time and that was Colossunaut with powers taken from FP kurrth had his bones broken.

This is why I believe superman can hurt fp kurrth and have him coming up on top.

They're not on the same level of durability. FP Kuurth was far closer to classic Juggernaut than he ever was to Colossusnaut... and then some. After all, Juggernaut never displayed the type of tp resistance that FP Kuurth displayed sans helmet. Juggernaut never displayed the ability to immediately return from being BFR'ed by teleportation like FP Kuurth did. Juggernaut never levitated over open air or outright flew like FP Kuurth did.

This is why few believe that FP Kuurth operated on Colossusnaut's level of power. Or, for that matter, even classic Juggernaut's. Because he didn't.

juggernaut did actually "levitate" in his first appearance when assaulting the x-men. jean levitated him yet his unstoppably allowed him to advance forward as if he were walking on solid ground, it's not entirely the same thing but whatever.

^ crackers

Silence, or I'll honor you again. uhuh

bump

Stalemate or Superman.

Kuurth in a massive stomp.

Supes.

jbl only showing his pussy when a superman thread shows up LOL

Originally posted by ghostman
jbl only showing his pussy when a superman thread shows up LOL

OWAW Superman or FC could pull this one. But it's hard to imagine how Kuurth can be overcome physically. However, Kuurth is to slow to win against a non CIS Superman. So either stalemate or Supes.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Does his choice "triggers" you?

Ask one of your writer friends to do it, friend!

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Ask one of your writer friends to do it, friend!

Originally posted by Nihilist
No bfr.

Who wins

Stalemate. Superman couldn’t put Kuurth down and Kuurth can’t hit Superman.

Originally posted by JBL
Kuurth in a massive stomp.