Full power Kuurth vs Superman

Started by Stoic13 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman can perceive bullets frozen. Kuurth would be a statue here.

Okay, can Kuurth hit Superman? According to canon he can just like every other character slower than Superman has, Look up the CIS ruling.

Can Kuurth hurt Superman with his attacks?

Am I out to make Superman lose? No. However some fans perception of Superman is wrong. He gets hit all of the time. If he was only hit once by opponents slower than he was then it is CIS, but he has a history of being hit. Primarily because in character he believes that he can take it. What you suggest is fanfic, because you are making up a new fighting style for Superman.

Originally posted by Stoic
Okay, can Kuurth hit Superman? According to canon he can just like every other character slower than Superman has, Look up the CIS ruling.

Can Kuurth hurt Superman with his attacks?

Am I out to make Superman lose? No. However some fans perception of Superman is wrong. He gets hit all of the time. If he was only hit once by opponents slower than he was then it is CIS, but he has a history of being hit. Primarily because in character he believes that he can take it. What you suggest is fanfic, because you are making up a new fighting style for Superman.

The CIS ruling supports that Superman won't get hit UNLESS he wants to against a slow moving attack.
Superman is gifted in intelligence. He's not stupid enough to to stand there and wait for a frozen in time attack to hit him, unless he wants it to.

Superman gets hit in comics because of plot reasons. He is sometimes written without having speed or reflexes. It has nothing to do with his choice (which CIS is determined by).

That's why we have the FULL CAPACITY rule. The example of flash is given in the rule (it states how he would operate in a forum although he has operated differently in comics due to the plot).

Originally posted by krisblaze
iirc Superman and Wonder Woman fought for years on end in Valhalla

Scans? 🙁

Originally posted by "Id"
Scans? 🙁

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Originally posted by h1a8
The CIS ruling supports that Superman won't get hit UNLESS he wants to against a slow moving attack.
Superman is gifted in intelligence. He's not stupid enough to to stand there and wait for a frozen in time attack to hit him, unless he wants it to.

Superman gets hit in comics because of plot reasons. He is sometimes written without having speed or reflexes. It has nothing to do with his choice (which CIS is determined by).

That's why we have the FULL CAPACITY rule. The example of flash is given in the rule (it states how he would operate in a forum although he has operated differently in comics due to the plot).

In that case whenever the Hulk is in a thread he begins off with a solar system destroying punch then. Right? Full capacity rule right? You're being ignorant to Superman's character. It isn't plot when he gets hit in fights. It's within his character.

You would have people believe that when Superman fights, he flies in and hits his opponent, observers his opponents twitch muscle fibers, and dodges. You should go and read a Superman comic book. He gets hit all of the time. It would only be PIS if it happened once, but he has an entire history of being hit. He isn't Spiderman. And even Spiderman gets hit. You know what, go ahead with your unrealistic views of a fictional character that has never fought the way that you're making him out to be.

Kuurth would hit him. Rabid Superman fans are worse than DBZ fans. It actually makes fans like me grow a dislike to the character that can't be beaten, hit, slowed, out thought, and a myriad of other things that the more unreasonable fans believe about him.

Intelligence is a power of Supermans, that he starts out with, though. It's his character. It's like Batman starting with his intelligence,or Tony Stark.

Full knowledge means he knows what Marvel Earth knew...which was that Kuurth was a tough hombre.

Hulk starts with his power of getting stronger the angrier he is. Doesn't mean he's at solar system punching though.

Whenwas he at this level,btw?

Isn't that Injustice Superman? Death of Lois and all that?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Isn't that Injustice Superman? Death of Lois and all that?

It is. 👆

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/superman-vs-darkseid-injustice-gods-among-us-4.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Intelligence is a power of Supermans, that he starts out with, though. It's his character. It's like Batman starting with his intelligence,or Tony Stark.

Full knowledge means he knows what Marvel Earth knew...which was that Kuurth was a tough hombre.

Hulk starts with his power of getting stronger the angrier he is. Doesn't mean he's at solar system punching though.

Whenwas he at this level,btw?

During HOTM. Arguing that Superman does not get hit despite a history of him being hit goes against his entire history. It also allows people to fight in his stead. Not how this is supposed to work according to forum rules. His character dictates that he believe that he can take it. If this is the case, Superman basically flies in hits, runs and repeats the tactic until he wins. When has he fought like this?

Yes, it's Injustice.

Stoic, bro... major fail.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Isn't that Injustice Superman? Death of Lois and all that?

Would you like me to take all of the scans of Superman being hit?

Who won that fight

My point is that he gets hit all of the time.

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He does that with people he's never met before. Not against say Kuurth who's also unstoppable, and magic on top of that (which he knows he's weak against). Someone who's well known for it.

When has Superman believed he can take on a magical being who's famous for being unstoppable, with an unbreakable etc hammer?

Against Doomsday, or Imperiex probes, when he knew what to do...he flew in, speed blitzed etc.

😂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He does that with people he's never met before. Not against say Kuurth who's also unstoppable, and magic on top of that (which he knows he's weak against). Someone who's well known for it.

When has Superman believed he can take on a magical being who's famous for being unstoppable, with an unbreakable etc hammer?

Against Doomsday, or Imperiex probes, when he knew what to do...he flew in, speed blitzed etc.

So you're saying that Superman has never ever been hit before? Couldn't edit the other post before this. But it was one with him trading punches with Doomsday, and he has never fought Kuurth before. You're arguing as if he has fought Kuurth. Mongul has hit him. Even Batman has hit him. He fought against magical constructs in First Thunder. When does he dodge the majority of the time? Is Superman the only one that gets the full power treatment, while none of the other characters in the forum does as well? My entire point here isn't whether or not Superman will win, but more to the idea that he would get hit. I need to see this Superman with the Spider sense that you guys seem to want to argue.

Can Kuurth be used in a tournament? Is he under the acceptable high herald limits?

In this scan Superman knows who his opponent is. He has known this foes for decades, and yet....

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