Originally posted by abhilegend
Go here and see how well namor has done against Thor/Hercules in the pasthttp://herochat.com/forum/index.php?topic=211938.0
See here for the rivalry between hulk and namor
http://hero-envy.blogspot.in/2012/02/hulk-vs-sub-mariner.html
And how bad he has done against Wolverine and How good Glads has done against wolverine.
Originally posted by carver9
@abhi...Blackbolt usually use his voice against Glads just like he has done to Magneto, Hulk, and Sentry. He didn't use that against Namor, he went straight fist cuffs.
Also, lol, Black Bolt was amped when he charged Gladiator in that scan...that's why they used the white noise, to get rip of said amp.
Binary charged a ship but later regained her power. She rested after this and went to the planet after being fully replenished and fought Gladiator. She was koed since we didn't see her anytime after that blow.
I never said Namor was weak by the way...remember, I was the one that said based off of his showings, he could probably pull some wins against Superman in a fist cuff match.
Black bolt wasn't amped, that's how he competes to others in strength, by amping his strength. He also didn't used his voice against gladiator in that showing, he just overpowered him.
Superman is above these guys in strength.
Originally posted by abhilegend
NO she was exhausted and wasn't even koed.Black bolt wasn't amped, that's how he competes to others in strength, by amping his strength. He also didn't used his voice against gladiator in that showing, he just overpowered him.
Superman is above these guys in strength.
She wasn't exhausted and she was koed.
Blackbolt was amped before facing Gladiator, that's why they made the plan to use the white noise against him.
Let me debate like you. Why can't Namor pull some wins from Superman when DC Hercules, someone who doesn't have fts like Namor rocked Superman and busted his face up?
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
And how bad he has done against Wolverine and How good Glads has done against wolverine.
In another instance he pretty much wrecked him in a few punches when he was done holding back
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03d.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03e.jpg
Gladiator didn't fare better against logan
Originally posted by carver9
@ Red...After that punch, Wonderman got punched into the core of the planet. Let's not pretend like Wonderman is weak, he punched Thor some distance and threw and boulder on top of him.
Lol...Masterson got punched one time and complained about the headache and pain he was in after this punch. After this Gladiator blitz him and makes his body go limp. Masterson even admitted it was hard for him to move. The ONLY time Masterson got an advantage was from a sneak attack. Reread the fight.
Lol...the Hyperion fight is CANON. Hahahahahaha...I'm done debating against you, I can tell you don't know what you are talking about.
i dont care, you were claiming he almost took his head off with a punch and all we got is wonderman taking his shots perfectly and stating a hyperbole statement even with the fact he took many shots from gladiator.
of course gladiator punches effected thor however nothing was done with a punch they traded punches and hit each other and at the end masterson knocked gladiator out and his friends dragged him out, i could also base their fight on the last hit masterson landed on gladiator and claim he took gladiator out with 1 hit thats how dumb your statement sounds.
it was done with a different reality hyperion its not canon.
Originally posted by carver9
She wasn't exhausted and she was koed.Blackbolt was amped before facing Gladiator, that's why they made the plan to use the white noise against him.
Let me debate like you. Why can't Namor pull some wins from Superman when DC Hercules, someone who doesn't have fts like Namor rocked Superman and busted his face up?
That's how his strength works carter. BB isn't a typical strongman elite, he amps himself up to their level to compete.
Who said herc doesn't have feats
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/WWunderTheIsland.jpg
and all he did was suckerpunch superman and break his nose
http://s477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/?action=view¤t=JSA01318.jpg
Otherwise superman was totally fine and casually koed herc after that
http://s477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/?action=view¤t=JSA01320.jpg
Originally posted by The Sorrow
I like how you dodged my last question, you just seem to be trolling at this point.It's stated he can move planets in nearly every arc Gladiator appears in and he's moved a planetary sized asteroid with "ease". The "rock in space" was said to have survived in a galaxy where other planets perished and he 3 shotted it. Does it really matter how big it was compared it Earth? Even a small planet is still leagues beyond Namor, Thing and Colossus.
The Hulk and Thing vs Thor instance is not canon and holds no relevance here, especially when the real Hulk takes on teams like this for fun. If Gladiator is serious he can quickly dispatch or at least badly hurt either Thing and/or Colossus with one solid punch.
i dont care what they state show me him moving planets otherwise its nothing but hyperbole crap.
yes it is important the size of that rock because if you make the claim of gladiator busting a planet and then reffer to that rock i would like to know the size of that rock compared to other planets to determain how does this feat stack up to real planets otherwise you might as well show me gladiator bust a mountain and say what does it matter the size? and it also took gladiator many punches to accompish the feat, who said its beyond manor to bust that rock? namor cant bust rocks? really?
it is canon because its a story of what would happen if odin died and blah blah blah and thats what happened thor got trashed very hard by hulk and thing, they are attacking him all together he wont be fighting them 1 vs 1 they will gang up on him and just beat his ass down, gladiator is not that great at trading blows you know he goes down.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Namor oneshotted logan albeit from behindIn another instance he pretty much wrecked him in a few punches when he was done holding back
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03d.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03e.jpgGladiator didn't fare better against logan
You are clearly reaching.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Namor oneshotted logan albeit from behind
That's not a one-shot. Logan fought Sub-Mariner's Royal Guard after having just regenerated from a bare skeleton, then he battled Namor himself... Namor recovered from his stab wounds and cheapshotted Logan in the end.
It's like saying that Moon Knight one-shotted Count Nefaria just because he delivered the last punch 😐
Originally posted by MF DELPH
Yeah, Gladiator. With his speed (which he actually uses) he should be able to control the terms of combat in either scenario, and he certainly has the power to drop and of his opponents (not one shot, but with accumulated damage).
Gladiator one-shotted the Thing in FF#250.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That's not a one-shot. Logan fought Sub-Mariner's Royal Guard after having just regenerated from a bare skeleton, then he battled Namor himself... Namor recovered from his stab wounds and cheapshotted Logan in the end.It's like saying that Moon Knight one-shotted Count Nefaria just because he delivered the last punch 😐
Originally posted by abhilegend
Concession accepted. Just as you know in a future reality logan fought kallark for six days straight.
Not a concession at all. You feel threatened by Thor and Gladiator for obvious reasons, especially Surfer and you tend to save all of their low end fts to save face for Superman when overall, Superman has just as many if not more, especially 2 to 3 years ago. You don't have to lowball these characters to make a case for Superman. I'm not going to debate against you because like usual, your lowballing will pretty much get ignored and the mods will focus more on my posts.
You bringing up non-canon info about Gladiator and Logan again is reaching. Especially when I can bring up Barman defeating Superman and more than once and I can also bring up Shadow dragon defeating Superman as well. I'm not going to go to far with this because again, what you say might get ignored whereas they have my post being printed and scanned at home every time I post something.
Originally posted by Dampyre
Gladiator one-shotted the Thing in FF#250.
Originally posted by carver9
Not a concession at all. You feel threatened by Thor and Gladiator for obvious reasons, especially Surfer and you tend to save all of their low end fts to save face for Superman when overall, Superman has just as many if not more, especially 2 to 3 years ago. You don't have to lowball these characters to make a case for Superman. I'm not going to debate against you because like usual, your lowballing will pretty much get ignored and the mods will focus more on my posts.You bringing up non-canon info about Gladiator and Logan again is reaching. Especially when I can bring up Barman defeating Superman and more than once and I can also bring up Shadow dragon defeating Superman as well. I'm not going to go to far with this because again, what you say might get ignored whereas they have my post being printed and scanned at home every time I post something.
Originally posted by carver9
By the way...Logan has defeated Namor 3 times on panel.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Where did I lowball gladiator? I don't feel threatened by losers. So when you can't respond to my posts, you start to accuse me of lowballing, eh? Nice tactic.
Irrelevant.
Stop responding to me and go find some more scans of Surfer being taken out by a brick and lasers.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah it was a suckerpunch oneshot. Logan was fully healed by the time he fought the royal guard who were only 2 tonner or something. The way logan was shrugging off class 100 characters, they were minor annoyances.
Re-read the arc. Fully healed on the outside yes, but still weak and his healing factor obviously not working anywhere close to 100%. Logan conceded that he didn't have much fight left in him and that was before Namor even arrived.
Class 2? Logan said Janus hit like a truck, which seems like an accurate description for the elite atlantean warrior. Namor got his licks in later, too.
