Gladiator vs Thing, Namor, Colossus

Originally posted by red sabre
as i said again i dont really care whats stated by others or narration i want feats, its always stated cap is a peak human while by feats he is above, as i said i only care for feats not statements.

so all you care is the title planet? even if its 1/4 the size of earth? 1/8 the size of earth? just the fact its planet is good enough? all i saw there is some rock floating up in the space and gladiator taking multiple shots at that rock in order to shatter it, if gladiator was sinking an island with punches would it be that great of a feat? size does matter and just the title planet doesnt say anything, so for all that we know gladiator busted a rock floating in space and i know for a fact namor can bust big rocks as well so...

its a storyline with same characters that shows us what could happen if odin died and thor became the ruler, same characters same background same everything only odin is dead and thor is taking over the odin force, activate your mind and learn to seperate canon from uncanon with your eyes and logic and not like a sheep following subjects.

this team doesnt need hulk backing them up, instead of hulk you got namor who matched him many times and even knocked him out and you got colossus who matched gladiator before and gave him a nice fight, and gladiator is no thor not even close , seriously you really think gladiator will physically overpower those 3 bricks? namor alone can give him a very hard fight seing how he matched hulk and hercules everytime they fought, adding thing and colossus is bringing gladiator down.

Based on the context it clearly was intended to be a regular sized planet, do you need the size to be spelled out in order for you to accept a character can destroy a planet? It's this level of nitpicking that causes half of the problems in comic vs forums. He punched apart a planet of unknown size that once was home to a civilization, an average sized planet is still far beyond anyone on the team.

Probably Colossus' most impressive feat against a powerful opponent but clearly is way above his norm. Namor is a clear tier below guys like Thor and Hulk but can do okay in certain circumstances. Hell Glads took on Namor and Colossus who were greatly amped by the Phoenix Force and held his own for a while. Colossus and Thing will be dropped quickly, Namor does ok for a while but is eventually beaten by an opponent who is superior across the board.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
You're in denial kid. Marvel has stated Gladiator can move planets for decades now that's good enough for me.

Based on the context it clearly was intended to be a regular sized planet, do you need the size to be spelled out in order for you to accept a character can destroy a planet? It's this level of nitpicking that causes half of the problems in comic vs forums. He punched apart a planet of unknown size that once was home to a civilization, an average sized planet is still far beyond anyone on the team.

Probably Colossus' most impressive feat against a powerful opponent and clearly is not his norm showing. Namor is a clear tier below guys like Thor and Hulk but can do okay in certain circumstances. Hell Glads took on 2 Namor and Colossus who were greatly amped by the Phoenix Force and held his own for a while. Colossus and Thing will be dropped quickly, Namor does ok for a while but is eventually beaten by an opponent who is superior across the board.

i dont really care whats good enough for you, can you show me gladiator moving a planet? no? buzz off.

what context? it shows us a big rock , are you trying to claim all planets are the same size? some planets are twice or 3 or 10 times bigger than others, therefor the size is unkown and the feat is irrelevant.

glads didnt took on 2 namors genius , gladiator punched an amped colossus and thats about it, after that a punch from this amped colossus caused his face to swell like crazy and took him out of the game, then namor jumped in and the 2 of them were murdering him like a massacre, namor during his entire history did better than gladiator vs the top tiers, i still find gladiator to be stronger and more durable than namor not by much at all but combined with colossus and thing they are beating the shit out of him.

Originally posted by Estacado
Im really surprised that the sales are that high...Imo it's the crappiest event in atleast 5 years.ermm

And that's saying something.

Originally posted by red sabre
do you believe gladiator to have such a superior reflex pack that it will overcome the 3 of them combined attacking him ? i dont think so

i do; it's not like he's fighting three kryptonians here.

Originally posted by red sabre
Pr you dont give the trio their respect, colossus alone gave gladiator a nice fight in the past, colossus thing and namor are just too much for him to handle, what feats does he have to suggest he will just walk over them? he goes down everytime he fights a top guy like hulk thor or black bolt, if anything namor actually did better than him in fights vs the top dogs, i actually think gladiator could beat namor even in only H2H however with thing and colossus on his side the 3 of them will take gladiator in H2H

i do give them their respect, there's just a huge gap in power between two of them and gladiator that, imo, needs to be recognised.

colossus was never a match for gladiator, he was just taking longer to put down. at no point did he actually seem like a danger to kallark.

thing... yeah, best not to talk about that tbh.

that leaves namor, who as i said should be the biggest obstacle.

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As for the thread:

Stop bashing, people.

red sabre, stop making comments about other posters.

carver, we don't ignore other people lowballing; you're just the worst offender.

Originally posted by red sabre
who said there was a civilized life on that planet? all this scan say is that there was some kind of race on that planet, in other words it was trying to tell us this rock had some life on it, the race has gone and does no longer exist, a race of cockroaches? a race of small bugs? germs? microbs? nobody said it was a race of humanoids or at any size.

who said the life form that was once on that planet needed the same supporting criterias as human beings? maybe they didnt need an atmosphere to support it? other than that its stating that the race is gone which can also mean that because that rock wasnt big enough and didnt have the resources it couldnt contain life further and they gone.

what is a respected gravitation field? who said there is a need in a respected gravitation field? each planet has a different gravity scale and different gravity influence, maybe the life on that rock was germs like and it didnt need gravitation at all? or to some minimal degree to the point the gravity core could be much weaker and smaller to the point that rock was a city size?

who said it was round in the first place? we dont see this rock being round, we see some portion of that having some curve however we dont see it as round planet, astroids have curves and many other rocks have curves does that mean they are effected by gravity? no it isnt.

Your other "arguments" are trash so there's no point discussing them.

Originally posted by -Pr-

i do; it's not like he's fighting three kryptonians here.

i do give them their respect, there's just a huge gap in power between two of them and gladiator that, imo, needs to be recognised.

colossus was never a match for gladiator, he was just taking longer to put down. at no point did he actually seem like a danger to kallark.

thing... yeah, best not to talk about that tbh.

that leaves namor, who as i said should be the biggest obstacle.

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As for the thread:

Stop bashing, people.

red sabre, stop making comments about other posters.

carver, we don't ignore other people lowballing; you're just the worst offender.

so now in your opinion it takes 3 kryptonians to fight gladiator because of his speed? just wow.

no you dont, if you think gladiator can just walk all over them in H2H then you clearly dont give them any respect and specially when you got namor on the team, no there isnt a huge gap between them and gladiator, colossus matched gladiator before, of course he went down but the fight clearly shows us it wasnt that big of a gap, the gap between him and thing should be even smaller, the gap between gladiator and namor is very small and i do mean very small because frankly namor did much better than gladiator vs the top tiers he knocked out hulk and was doing better than hercules, something gladiator never could accomplish, i will give gladiator a win in H2H vs anyone of them but not the 3 of them combined, too much strength tactics and fighting abilities, just watch how both namor and colossus with the phoenix force destroyed him, i know they were amped by the phoenix but it didnt give them a greater speed or better tactics they would still use same tactics on him gang up and pound on him like they did only they are going to have the thing on their side as well and they will beat the hell out of him.

Originally posted by red sabre
i dont really care whats good enough for you, can you show me gladiator moving a planet? no? buzz off.

what context? it shows us a big rock , are you trying to claim all planets are the same size? some planets are twice or 3 or 10 times bigger than others, therefor the size is unkown and the feat is irrelevant.

glads didnt took on 2 namors genius , gladiator punched an amped colossus and thats about it, after that a punch from this amped colossus caused his face to swell like crazy and took him out of the game, then namor jumped in and the 2 of them were murdering him like a massacre, namor during his entire history did better than gladiator vs the top tiers, i still find gladiator to be stronger and more durable than namor not by much at all but combined with colossus and thing they are beating the shit out of him.

He rocked Phoenix Colossus with one punch, if that was regular Colossus he would have been out cold, and Gladiator has already one-shotted Thing. All that would be left is Namor who is not beating Gladiator one on one period.

Originally posted by zopzop
YOU DIDN'T READ THE SCAN DID YOU?! This is hilarious. 😆

Your other "arguments" are trash so there's no point discussing them.

so you concede i see ok i accept that, you didnt adress my points because you realise you cant prove anything because the scan doesnt let us know anything, the scan doesnt even prove that rock was round shaped, it doesnt say while kind of race was there, could be a race of bugs or microbs, you made things out of your ass trying to present it like the race on that rock was humanoid like and had to have the tearms of a human life to survive that is false and backed by nothing, fail on you boy.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
😂 U mad?

He rocked Phoenix Colossus with one punch, if that was regular Colossus he would have been out cold, and Gladiator has already one-shotted Thing. All that will be left is Namor who is not beating Gladiator one on one period.

why should i be mad when you are the one fading away?

speculations? how could colossus be out of the fight after a punch when in the past they went blow for blow and colossus gave him a good fight? who said he rocked colossus? he punched him and colossus hit a wall with his head thats all there is to it, how much did it effect colosssus? to what degree does the phoenix force devided by 5 amps colossus durability? how much was colossus taping into the phoenix force when fighting gladiator? at first they wanted him to join to there side and didnt fight him seriously but then when he refuced suddenly cyclops tapped into the phoenix force and colossus with a single punch made his face swell and basically took him out of the game with a punch, not a good argument for you.

your scene is laughable, the 3 of them are fighting him at the same time not 1 by 1 the 3 of them jump him and beat the crap out of him just like that.

Originally posted by red sabre
so you concede i see ok i accept that, you didnt adress my points because you realise you cant prove anything because the scan doesnt let us know anything, the scan doesnt even prove that rock was round shaped, it doesnt say while kind of race was there, could be a race of bugs or microbs, you made things out of your ass trying to present it like the race on that rock was humanoid like and had to have the tearms of a human life to survive that is false and backed by nothing, fail on you boy.

The race which it spawned has long since gone to other stars and become dust.

The team wins this.... Glads is faster, stronger and has more abilities than any of the the 3 but, together he will be over taken.

Glads never one shotted Ben and neither did Namor ftr. Just so everyone is clear being one shotted means that someone gets hit (ONCE) and is KO'd and is no longer conscious and doesn't get up.

Originally posted by zopzop
FIRST : READ THE SCAN. Then you can run your mouth. The scan CLEARLY STATES the alien race that inhabited that world MOVED ON TO OTHER PLANETS LONG AGO:

🙄 [/B]

was in mentioned how eactly they leave the rock? maybe they were visited by aliens or even humans that took those bugs or even microbs for research purposes and brough them to their planet.

Originally posted by red sabre
was in mentioned how eactly they leave the rock? maybe they were visited by aliens or even humans that took those bugs or even microbs for research purposes and brough them to their planet.

so as i said nothing can be proved and gladiator busted a big rock.

Originally posted by red sabre
so as i said nothing can be proved and gladiator busted a big rock.

Originally posted by zopzop
No, I'm laughing because you're a clown and your "arguments" are hilarious.

well you are the bozo that cant prove his point, i just show you how anything you say can be countered because the lack of evidence to that scan that cant even prove that rock was round.

Gladiator wins 100 times in 100. With ease.

Originally posted by red sabre
was in mentioned how eactly they leave the rock? maybe they were visited by aliens or even humans that took those bugs or even microbs for research purposes and brough them to their planet.

😂

Originally posted by red sabre
this is not a discussion of can ben alone beat gladiator or not, this is a discussion of colossus thing and namor combined taking on him H2H, i already said that with all powers he wins, however only H2H he goes down, a guy who can move planets? prove he can move planets, destroy one? he busted some rock in space which we dont even know the size of it and suddenly he bust planets? how big was that rock planet compared to earth? get out of here.

its not about who can deal more damage its about the fact all those 3 combined with tactics and pure strength can overcome gladiator and beat the crap out of him as simple as it is, this and hulk alone were able to tear off thor's arm tear off his eye and trash him, thats the difference numbers make even when you fight guys that are inferior to you, while namor and colossus are no hulk gladiator is no thor, those 3 will overpower and kill gladiator eventually.

Who determines the size of the planet in comics?
That's write the writer does, not us.
It was clearly the writer's intentions that Glads busted a planet at least the size of Earth. That's because that is the size of a planet that all readers are familar with. If the writer wanted a smaller planet or a moon then he would have said so. By default, all atmospheric rocky planets are Earth size due to the writer's intentions.

But what you are not getting is, the team together can't even bust the smallest moon up. None of the characters have any feats that come close to even busting up a state or even a small city.

Did you read AVX? Did you see how Cyke dealt with Thor? Did you see how Glads dealt with Cyke? It took 3 of them just to beat Glads.

It's a planet that we assume is at the least bigger than the moon no? It's a decent feat. But at the end of the day it was still a giant dead space rock which Gladiator had to slam into and break with multiple all out punches. Don't get why people get all wet about it.

Originally posted by Damborgson
It's a planet that we assume is at the least bigger than the moon no? It's a decent feat. But at the end of the day it was still a giant dead space rock which Gladiator had to slam into and break with multiple all out punches.

Don't get why people get all wet about it.