Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Re-read the arc. Fully healed on the outside yes, but still weak and his healing factor obviously not working anywhere close to 100%. Logan conceded that he didn't have much fight left in him and that was [b]before Namor even arrived.Class 2? Logan said Janus hit like a truck, which seems like an accurate description for the elite atlantean warrior. Namor got his licks in later, too. [/B]
Originally posted by red sabre
i dont care what they state show me him moving planets otherwise its nothing but hyperbole crap.yes it is important the size of that rock because if you make the claim of gladiator busting a planet and then reffer to that rock i would like to know the size of that rock compared to other planets to determain how does this feat stack up to real planets otherwise you might as well show me gladiator bust a mountain and say what does it matter the size? and it also took gladiator many punches to accompish the feat, who said its beyond manor to bust that rock? namor cant bust rocks? really?
it is canon because its a story of what would happen if odin died and blah blah blah and thats what happened thor got trashed very hard by hulk and thing, they are attacking him all together he wont be fighting them 1 vs 1 they will gang up on him and just beat his ass down, gladiator is not that great at trading blows you know he goes down.
All we know is it was a planet, it could have been smaller or larger than Earth but even a small planet such as Mercury is still far above Namor and co. Gladiator has stomped Thing with utter ease, if he's serious Ben and Colossus will be dropped pretty swiftly.
It's not canon because it was retconned into being a different universe from 616 and still has nothing to do with the thread, the whole fight happened off-panel and this team doesn't have the luxury of Hulk backing them up. Gladiator would take some hits but he is simply too strong, too tough and too fast to lose here.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I have read that arc and he wasn't shown to be weaker. Considering his pact with lazaer where his body was fully healed before his soul returns to his body, its even more doubtful. Yeah an average atlantean is around 2 tonner level. Namor was most likely holding back talking to an allie not to mention he was greatly injured himself.
It's common sense that healing from a skeleton would take its toll on him. It was noted by Amir that Wolverine was almost finished. He conceded in his thoughts.
Janus wasn't an average atlantean though.
Namor wasn't wounded when he first punched and elbowed Wolverine. He wasn't trying to reason with him either.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's common sense that healing from a skeleton would take its toll on him. It was noted by Amir that Wolverine was almost finished. He conceded in his thoughts.Janus wasn't an average atlantean though.
Namor wasn't wounded when he first punched and elbowed Wolverine. He wasn't trying to reason with him either.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Normally I would a agree but the same statement, be it through narration or other characters, is repeatedly rammed down our throats nearly everytime Gladiator appears in a book. Clearly according to Marvel he can move/destroy planets.All we know is it was a planet, it could have been smaller or larger than Earth but even a small planet such as Mercury is still far above Namor and co. Gladiator has stomped Thing with utter ease, if he's serious Ben and Colossus will be dropped pretty swiftly.
It's not canon because it was retconned into being a different universe from 616 and still has nothing to do with the thread, the whole fight happened off-panel and this team doesn't have the luxury of Hulk backing them up. Gladiator would take some hits but he is simply too strong, too tough and too fast to lose here.
as i said again i dont really care whats stated by others or narration i want feats, its always stated cap is a peak human while by feats he is above, as i said i only care for feats not statements.
so all you care is the title planet? even if its 1/4 the size of earth? 1/8 the size of earth? just the fact its planet is good enough? all i saw there is some rock floating up in the space and gladiator taking multiple shots at that rock in order to shatter it, if gladiator was sinking an island with punches would it be that great of a feat? size does matter and just the title planet doesnt say anything, so for all that we know gladiator busted a rock floating in space and i know for a fact namor can bust big rocks as well so...
its a storyline with same characters that shows us what could happen if odin died and thor became the ruler, same characters same background same everything only odin is dead and thor is taking over the odin force, activate your mind and learn to seperate canon from uncanon with your eyes and logic and not like a sheep following subjects.
this team doesnt need hulk backing them up, instead of hulk you got namor who matched him many times and even knocked him out and you got colossus who matched gladiator before and gave him a nice fight, and gladiator is no thor not even close , seriously you really think gladiator will physically overpower those 3 bricks? namor alone can give him a very hard fight seing how he matched hulk and hercules everytime they fought, adding thing and colossus is bringing gladiator down.
Honestly namor is being underestimated here. Here he oneshots flash ko BRB
Originally posted by abhilegend
It was retconned as doing of lazaer as everytime logan's soul battled him in puragatory his body was totally healed as new. You got any proof that he wasn't an average atlantean? Namor was holding back as he usually shouts imperiex rex before not holding back.
He still needed nutrition, sleep and time so he and his hf could function at optimum levels, it's not a power that operates at 100% all the time and runs on infinite energy. Did he get it? No. He had to fight right after Nitro blew him up. That's why he was in bad shape overall.
Yes, Wolverine's comments prove it. A 2 tonner doesn't hit like a truck and I highly doubt an ordinary atlantean would belong to the Royal Guard...
It was Wolverine who was holding back, fighting Namor without his claws at first, then aiming for non-vital areas...
Originally posted by red sabre
so all you care is the title planet? even if its 1/4 the size of earth? 1/8 the size of earth? just the fact its planet is good enough? all i saw there is some rock floating up in the space and gladiator taking multiple shots at that rock in order to shatter it, if gladiator was sinking an island with punches would it be that great of a feat? size does matter and just the title planet doesnt say anything, so for all that we know gladiator busted a rock floating in space and i know for a fact namor can bust big rocks as well so...
So it would be at least Earth like in size. PISless Gladiator destroys these guys.
Originally posted by zopzop
It was a planet large enough to have a respectable gravity because it spawned life and civilization :So it would be at least Earth like in size. PISless Gladiator destroys these guys.
who said its at least the size of earth? just because at some point there was some race living on that huge rock it should be at least the size of earth? can you show me the universal law stating that if some planet has some kind of life on it it has to be at the very least the size of earth? it could be as big as a city who knows, all we see is a big rock broken by gladiator.
Originally posted by red sabre
who said its at least the size of earth? just because at some point there was some race living on that huge rock it should be at least the size of earth? can you show me the universal law stating that if some planet has some kind of life on it it has to be at the very least the size of earth? it could be as big as a city who knows, all we see is a big rock broken by gladiator.
how do you know the size of its gravity core? who said its the same as earth? i will say it again who said it has to be at least the size of earth? who said if there is some form of life on the planet it has to be at least the size of earth? there are elipse shaped astroids do we assume its because of gravity? your link talks about gravity giving the round shape and its totaly cool however who said it has to be in specific size in order for gravity to effect it? who said it has to have some kind of stadard gravity core in a standard size? it can very be the size of a city or a country as well and have all those criterias, therefor there is no proof gladiator busted a planet worth mentioning because all we know is that its a big rock that at some point had some form of life on iot, maybe the life on that planet were germs? maybe they were microbs?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He still needed nutrition, sleep and time so he and his hf could function at optimum levels, it's not a power that operates at 100% all the time and runs on infinite energy. Did he get it? No. He had to fight right after Nitro blew him up. That's why he was in bad shape overall.Yes, Wolverine's comments prove it. A 2 tonner doesn't hit like a truck and I highly doubt an ordinary atlantean would belong to the Royal Guard...
It was Wolverine who was holding back, fighting Namor without his claws at first, then aiming for non-vital areas...
So you have no proof that he was not an ordinary atlantean and seriously, hitting like a truck? You are better than this.
Irrelevant as logan can't hold back his HF and durability.
Originally posted by red sabre
how do you know the size of its gravity core? who said its the same as earth? i will say it again who said it has to be at least the size of earth? who said if there is some form of life on the planet it has to be at least the size of earth? there are elipse shaped astroids do we assume its because of gravity? your link talks about gravity giving the round shape and its totaly cool however who said it has to be in specific size in order for gravity to effect it? who said it has to have some kind of stadard gravity core in a standard size? it can very be the size of a city or a country as well and have all those criterias, therefor there is no proof gladiator busted a planet worth mentioning because all we know is that its a big rock that at some point had some form of life on iot, maybe the life on that planet were germs? maybe they were microbs?
Mercury is reminiscent of the Moon – simply a ball of rock hotter than our satellite. Despite its appearance though, the planet actually does have an atmosphere. Some astronomers believe that Mercury originally had a thick atmosphere like Earth, but the planet is so small that it has very low gravity. As a result of the planet’s low gravity, Mercury’s atmosphere was blown away by strong solar winds.Read more: http://www.universetoday.com/35796/atmosphere-of-the-planets/#ixzz20cbKU4RB
Add this to the fact that it was spherical in shape (it's sufficiently large enough that it's gravitational field shaped it into a sphere) and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand what the writer was trying to convey.
And microbes? You genius, you didn't read the scan did you?! 😆
Originally posted by zopzop
Genius, if it had civilized life, that means it had an atmosphere capable of supporting it, which means it had respectable gravitational field, meaning it was a good sized world.
http://www.universetoday.com/35796/atmosphere-of-the-planets/Small planets/planetoids don't have atmosphere's capable of supporting intelligent life because of their weak gravity.
Add this to the fact that it was spherical in shape (it's sufficiently large enough that it's gravitational field shaped it into a sphere) and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand what the writer was trying to convey.
And microbes? You genius, you didn't read the scan did you?! 😆
who said there was a civilized life on that planet? all this scan say is that there was some kind of race on that planet, in other words it was trying to tell us this rock had some life on it, the race has gone and does no longer exist, a race of cockroaches? a race of small bugs? germs? microbs? nobody said it was a race of humanoids or at any size.
who said the life form that was once on that planet needed the same supporting criterias as human beings? maybe they didnt need an atmosphere to support it? other than that its stating that the race is gone which can also mean that because that rock wasnt big enough and didnt have the resources it couldnt contain life further and they gone.
what is a respected gravitation field? who said there is a need in a respected gravitation field? each planet has a different gravity scale and different gravity influence, maybe the life on that rock was germs like and it didnt need gravitation at all? or to some minimal degree to the point the gravity core could be much weaker and smaller to the point that rock was a city size?
who said it was round in the first place? we dont see this rock being round, we see some portion of that having some curve however we dont see it as round planet, astroids have curves and many other rocks have curves does that mean they are effected by gravity? no it isnt.
