Originally posted by red sabreGladiator never fought Thor. I don't recall Gladiator ever losing to Black Bolt in a straight fight. The fight against Supreme isn't even canon. Wolverine stabbed Thanos, of all people. When he had the IG, of all artifacts. And Gladiator turned stumped a fierce mudhole in Wolverine in their other encounter.
glads lost to any top tier he went up against, thor, hulk, black bolt, masterson, champion, got recently raped by the phoenix 5, also owned by canonball and of course by supreme, hell wolverine penetrated his arm and was taking him down, do you see wolverine doing that to black adam? Lolblack adam is a bad ass that kicks the shit out of top tiers and at worst he is stalemating guys like captain marvel and superman, black adam is the better fighter by far, more ruthless, stronger faster and overall better than gladiator, gladiator is nothing compared to adam and anyone who thinks the purple punching bag has a chance here is trolling.
Black Adam is a beast in combat. But Gladiator is a peer to him. He's got a chance and then some. Don't be so resentful that Gladiator's independent feats actually outshine Black Adam's.
Originally posted by red sabre
if it was a toss up gladiator would win some, however he never wins against the top guys he always gets beat up and therefor he cant compete with them, dude seriously he gets wrecked by guys like hulk thor and black bolt all the time, thor is in superman's league and this is black adam we are talking about someone who at worst can match superman and at best is slightly above him, gladiator goes down to guys he is suppose to be faster than, if he is facing someone who not only is on those guys league or even above but also can match him in speed what do you think will happen? Pr i know that some people here dont read DC but you do, do you honestly think gladiator can take on black adam? come on man for real.the wolverine point was just to show that high tiers such as thor hulk and sentry always dismiss him even if they are cut, hell namor and freakin ares did much better vs wolverine than glads did, i never said lets judge his overall portrayel by the wolverine fight, however the wolverine fight is another drop that contributes to the fact his ass is kickable when ever he fights someone worth mentioning.
What's your point? I already said Adam would win.
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Originally posted by ODG
Gladiator never fought Thor. I don't recall Gladiator ever losing to Black Bolt in a straight fight. The fight against Supreme isn't even canon. Wolverine stabbed Thanos, of all people. When he had the IG, of all artifacts. And Gladiator turned stumped a fierce mudhole in Wolverine in their other encounter.Black Adam is a beast in combat. But Gladiator is a peer to him. He's got a chance and then some. Don't be so resentful that Gladiator's independent feats actually outshine Black Adam's.
they fought i posted scans of the fight.
gladiator got chocked by black bolt and needed help from his girl.
the fight against supreme shows how they would fight if it was canon, as i always said the storyline itself isnt canon but the fights are because they portray exactly how those characters would have fought if that storyline did happen just like with king thor and his storyline.
wolverine stabbed many people however got dismissed like with thor sentry namor atc atc, gladiator couldnt handle wolverine while wolverine is clawing him, even freakin ares did much better.
gladiator has a good deal of strength durability and speed but i see black adam having all those to a higher degree not to mention more skilled and ruthless.
Originally posted by red sabre
they fought i posted scans of the fight.gladiator got chocked by black bolt and needed help from his girl.
the fight against supreme shows how they would fight if it was canon, as i always said the storyline itself isnt canon but the fights are because they portray exactly how those characters would have fought if that storyline did happen just like with king thor and his storyline.
wolverine stabbed many people however got dismissed like with thor sentry namor atc atc, gladiator couldnt handle wolverine while wolverine is clawing him, even freakin ares did much better.
gladiator has a good deal of strength durability and speed but i see black adam having all those to a higher degree not to mention more skilled and ruthless.
Gladiator is more skilled. And I doubt BA is stronger and more durable than Glads at his best. Hell BA has proven to be very weak against HV. Glads has HV in spades.
So again how would a flying brick beat someone who is a peer and has more powers?
Originally posted by h1a8
Gladiator is more skilled. And I doubt BA is stronger and more durable than Glads at his best. Hell BA has proven to be very weak against HV. Glads has HV in spades.So again how would a flying brick beat someone who is a peer and has more powers?
based on what? how did you came to the conclusion gladiator is the better fighter? black adam always wrecking shit and beating the crap out of top tiers and even groups of them, gladiator is getting smashed in his fights overall and seem to always lose a slugfest, its really a no brainer who is the better fighter.
judging by feats black adam is both stronger and more durable than gladiator, so wait a second you want to tell me if character A was able to hurt gladiator with heat vision that means everybody can hurt him with a heat vision? the heat vision isnt universal and its not the same power output , the force of the heat vision changes depends on the person, superman has by far stronger heat vision than gladiator judging by heat vision feats.
what more powers? what are those more powers? you really wana tell me you give gladiator an edge just because he has an extra heat vision that never presented a real threat in the first place? what are his feats with the heat vision? who did he hurt or put down with his heat vision? black adam is stronger more durable got by farrrr more damage soak more ruthless and the better fighter, the only thing perhaps they can compare on is speed but thats it, black adam is a high herald leaning towards a trans while gladiator is a mid herald that gets his shit pushed in vs any high herald he goes up against.
Originally posted by red sabre
based on what? how did you came to the conclusion gladiator is the better fighter? black adam always wrecking shit and beating the crap out of top tiers and even groups of them, gladiator is getting smashed in his fights overall and seem to always lose a slugfest, its really a no brainer who is the better fighter.judging by feats black adam is both stronger and more durable than gladiator, so wait a second you want to tell me if character A was able to hurt gladiator with heat vision that means everybody can hurt him with a heat vision? the heat vision isnt universal and its not the same power output , the force of the heat vision changes depends on the person, superman has by far stronger heat vision than gladiator judging by heat vision feats.
what more powers? what are those more powers? you really wana tell me you give gladiator an edge just because he has an extra heat vision that never presented a real threat in the first place? what are his feats with the heat vision? who did he hurt or put down with his heat vision? black adam is stronger more durable got by farrrr more damage soak more ruthless and the better fighter, the only thing perhaps they can compare on is speed but thats it, black adam is a high herald leaning towards a trans while gladiator is a mid herald that gets his shit pushed in vs any high herald he goes up against.
Glads has low showings yes but that has nothing to do with him fighting at his best ability in this forum.
Fact one: Glads has displayed faster combat speed than BA
Fact two: Glads can seriously damage BA with HV. MM proved that BA is weak against it. Also Glads HV is hotter than the core of stars and have penetrated Hulk's chest to his heart organ. And if you believe in matching blasts shows being in the vicinity of someone's power (I don't) then Gladiator's HV has matched Tyrants output and PF Cyke's output.
Fact three: Currently Glads is shown to much more powerful than his average self. He went toe to toe with a being that blocked Thor's swings with a pinky.
Fact four: Glads has freeze breath that he can use to slow BA down to not only get more hits in but to be able to defend better against him.
LOL at BA being a high herald let alone a trans. He's just a flying brick who is very strong and durable. Anyone with HV or nice energy projection will uck him up.
Originally posted by ODG
Gladiator never fought Thor. I don't recall Gladiator ever losing to Black Bolt in a straight fight. The fight against Supreme isn't even canon. Wolverine stabbed Thanos, of all people. When he had the IG, of all artifacts. And Gladiator turned stumped a fierce mudhole in Wolverine in their other encounter.Black Adam is a beast in combat. But Gladiator is a peer to him. He's got a chance and then some. Don't be so resentful that Gladiator's independent feats actually outshine Black Adam's.
This.
I actually have this with a slight edge to gladiator due to superior energy projection (HV in particular will be very effective as MM showed) with everything else across the board being pretty comparable. Gladiator is one of those characters whose rep suffers on here largely due to the voice of his loudest supporter as there is no way any fairminded person can look at this fight and proclaim he gets stomped or what have you. That is just straight silly
Originally posted by red sabre
glads lost to any top tier he went up against, thor, hulk, black bolt, masterson, champion, got recently raped by the phoenix 5, also owned by canonball and of course by supreme, hell wolverine penetrated his arm and was taking him down, do you see wolverine doing that to black adam? Lolblack adam is a bad ass that kicks the shit out of top tiers and at worst he is stalemating guys like captain marvel and superman, black adam is the better fighter by far, more ruthless, stronger faster and overall better than gladiator, gladiator is nothing compared to adam and anyone who thinks the purple punching bag has a chance here is trolling.
When did Gladiator lose to Cannonball? When he fought Hulk, his Kryptonite was on the battlefield. Champion had the power gem when he fought Gladiator and in that same fight, it was stated that Gladiator can crush black holes in his hands and wrest planets.
The Phoenix 5 is running through everyone and their grandmomma and Gladiator did better against them as a whole than what anyone minus Scarlet which has done.
I don't see these low showings that you are trying to cling to. Looking at Glads actual battles, he usually does good, if not, dominate.
Originally posted by h1a8
Gladiator is more skilled. And I doubt BA is stronger and more durable than Glads at his best. Hell BA has proven to be very weak against HV. Glads has HV in spades.So again how would a flying brick beat someone who is a peer and has more powers?
minus the WW3 ba getting hit by martian manhunters HV what other times has he proven weak against HV?
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Cap lifted infinit weight. Adam is his equal so he>gladiator
That's not how it works.
Originally posted by carver9
Nothing shown proving that the book weighs infinity. It's a magical item. If it was infinite in weight, nothing would be able to hold it. Captain Marvel did not lift infinite weight.
The book was stated as being infinite. As silly as the feat is, the book was still infinite. Undisputably.