Gladiator vs Black Adam

Originally posted by h1a8
Glads has low showings yes but that has nothing to do with him fighting at his best ability in this forum.

Fact one: Glads has displayed faster combat speed than BA
Fact two: Glads can seriously damage BA with HV. MM proved that BA is weak against it. Also Glads HV is hotter than the core of stars and have penetrated Hulk's chest to his heart organ. And if you believe in matching blasts shows being in the vicinity of someone's power (I don't) then Gladiator's HV has matched Tyrants output and PF Cyke's output.
Fact three: Currently Glads is shown to much more powerful than his average self. He went toe to toe with a being that blocked Thor's swings with a pinky.
Fact four: Glads has freeze breath that he can use to slow BA down to not only get more hits in but to be able to defend better against him.

LOL at BA being a high herald let alone a trans. He's just a flying brick who is very strong and durable. Anyone with HV or nice energy projection will uck him up.

there are low showings and then there is consistant showings, gladiator getting his ass kicked by top tiers is not low showings but consistant showings learn the difference.

no gladiator does not has a faster combat speed unless you can provide evidence to that, black adam fought a group of herals all with super human speed and beat them, show me gladiator doing anyhting like that.

just because martial manhunter was able to damage black adam with his heat vision does not mean he has some kind of weakness to heat vision and it does not mean gladiator can produce a heat vision at those levels martial manhunter can, its just as stupid as saying hulk beat gladiator with punches then anyone who use punches will beat his ass.

penetrating hulks chest is a lame feat since hulk is actually a soft guy, his healing factor is what keeps him on track and doesnt allow him to seriously get hurt however almost anything can hurt and cut hulk, freakin beast was making him bleed with his kicks, gladiator burning his chest is nothing impressive at all.

gladiator was able to match cyclops output before cyclops was tapping into the phoenix force and while he was trying to convince gladiator to join them, as soon as he refuced you could see cyclops easily overpowered him.

i dont recall gladiator matching tyrant at all i remember him getting his ass kicked as usually.

i didnt notice gladiator being more powerful, he still gets his ass kicked and recently he got raped to coma so whats the deal? your imagination? not working for me.

here is a newsflash, superman has a heat vision more powerful than gladiator's and he also has an ice breath, does it help him vs black adam? having more powers does not mean they will actually work against the opponnt or help, i actually laugh at you if you think an ice breath will stop someone like black adam or even slow him down, gladiator may have 1 chance to unleash the ice breath during the entire fight and i really doubt it will change anything at all, after that black adam will be in his face tearing down his face.

so you think black adam isnt a high herald? do we all agree superman is a high herald? whats the difference between superman and black adam? the face black adam doesnt have a heat vision? dude at this point your stupidity reach new levels seriously, black adam is on the same tier as both superman and captain marvel to say that thrio isnt high heralds is just being uneducated about DC comics, the way things are portrayed black adam is a slight notch above those 2 and therefor i said he is reaching the trans level, he went up against a group of heralds and kicking ass left and right, to even say he is below high herald already means you dont know anything.

so you actually think that if adding black adam a heat vision thats what gona make him high herald? unless you dont have a heat vision you just cant be? how dumb is that? and now you go further and say anyone with heat vision can beat him up? 1 word for you "superman".

Black Adam wins 6-7/10 times

by the way black adam has a control over lightning, so there you go now he isnt just a flying brick after all Lol the stupidity of H1

Originally posted by Newjak
Black Adam wins 6-7/10 times

Originally posted by red sabre
by the way black adam has a control over lightning, so there you go now he isnt just a flying brick after all Lol the stupidity of H1

Outside of plot, please name the times Gladiator got destroyed and please don't type a bible while replying to this. Make is short and sweet.

dude i mentioned all the times gladiator got his ass kicked just look back, you know what tell me who did gladiator ever beat that was on black adam levels.

I say stalemate!

@Red...

Then you are clearly ignoring Gladiator showings as a whole. Gladiator has never, NEVER lost a fight outside of plot. You should know this since you have been debating against the characters for days now. Let's look at his battles please.

Tyrant was a legit loss since Tyrant was clearly in a different tier but even then, Gladiator held his own and actually did better than any other Herald that was there. Gladiator matched Tyrants eye blast, withstood an eye blast from him and Tyrant had to pound on Gladiator whereas he one shotted everyone else.

Thor and Gladiator never fought. Thor NEVER met Gladiator...the REAL Gladiator, don't know why you keep using that fight as evidence when the mods even stated this isn't canon to Gladiator.

Masterson got his ass kicked by Gladiator ending with Gladiator standing over him. Dominated. Now here is the plot. Living lightning was flying by, over a defeated Masterson and M took control of living lightning and stunned Gladiator with a sneak attack which gave Masterson an opening. Before this plot, Masterson body was limp and on the ground damaged. Masterson even admitted he couldn't move.

Wonderman got punched through the core of a planet...non fight.

Nova got dominated and resorted to absorbing Gladiator heat vision sending it to him a hundred fold and that still didn't knock him out. Before this, Nova couldn't budge Gladiator..good absoprtion ft for Nova but Glads won that.

Gladiator fought the Nova members and stomped. He even one shots one of them that wad taking Nova Prime place.

Binary got stomped.

Vulcan got stomped

A pissed Rachel stalemated Glads but before this, she got one shotted twice.

The Fantastic four got stomped.

The elder defeated Gladiator but he was empowered by his entire race...millions or Aliens.

Cannonball got completely dominated and here goes the plot. During mid "getting his a** whipped" he gains a new power and absorbs Gladiator punch, a punch that was going to send him to the core of the sun and hit Gladiator with this same punch. It stuns Gladiator but he withstood the attack.

Hulk...first thing he fought one of the most powerful Hulks out there and to make matters worst, his kryptonite was on the battlefield. What a coincidence. PLOT. Hulk probably still would have won since again, this was one of the strongest Hulks ever and Hulk consistently dominate heralds.

Wolverine got completely thrashed by Glads and the scan that you put up is Wolverine stabbing a Gladiator that is fighting a fleeing Ironman. Before this, Gladiator was working the Avengers and again Wolverine hit him with a sneak attack. Also, didn't the writer state that Wolverine was only capable of piercing Glads due to his confidence waining during the events that was going on during those times (even though it was still a good showing for Logan).?

The Phoenix 5? Lol..one of them ran through the entire Avengers roster and Gladiator took on all 5 of them and held his own (some of the fight was done off panel). Hell, he flash koed Colossus. They literally had to repeatedly pound on him to take him out. Let's not forget that 1 of these characters have been walking through line up of hero's on more than one occasion. That was an amazing showing for Glads and you using it as some type of low ft is retarded, especially when these 5 are operating at trans+ levels.

Like I've stated, outside of plot, Gladiator usually dominates and doesn't have the low showings that you are trying to throw on him.

Glads win 7/10

Adam wins

This thread makes my head hurt...

Originally posted by -Pr-
This thread makes my head hurt...

Thats why I am.here.

Originally posted by carver9
Outside of plot, please name the times Gladiator got destroyed and please don't type a bible while replying to this. Make is short and sweet.

carter.... ALL comics have plots....

Originally posted by carver9
Thats why I am.here.

To make it worse?

Originally posted by -Pr-
To make it worse?

The coin...remember the coin.

Originally posted by ctsketch
carter.... ALL comics have plots....

Duuh, you are missing the point.

Originally posted by carver9
The coin...remember the coin.

You wish.

Gladiator 9/10.

Isn't Gladiator vulnerable to magic? I kinda remember reading about that from a comic some time back.

Originally posted by red sabre
there are low showings and then there is consistant showings, gladiator getting his ass kicked by top tiers is not low showings but consistant showings learn the difference.

no gladiator does not has a faster combat speed unless you can provide evidence to that, black adam fought a group of herals all with super human speed and beat them, show me gladiator doing anyhting like that.

just because martial manhunter was able to damage black adam with his heat vision does not mean he has some kind of weakness to heat vision and it does not mean gladiator can produce a heat vision at those levels martial manhunter can, its just as stupid as saying hulk beat gladiator with punches then anyone who use punches will beat his ass.

penetrating hulks chest is a lame feat since hulk is actually a soft guy, his healing factor is what keeps him on track and doesnt allow him to seriously get hurt however almost anything can hurt and cut hulk, freakin beast was making him bleed with his kicks, gladiator burning his chest is nothing impressive at all.

gladiator was able to match cyclops output before cyclops was tapping into the phoenix force and while he was trying to convince gladiator to join them, as soon as he refuced you could see cyclops easily overpowered him.

i dont recall gladiator matching tyrant at all i remember him getting his ass kicked as usually.

i didnt notice gladiator being more powerful, he still gets his ass kicked and recently he got raped to coma so whats the deal? your imagination? not working for me.

here is a newsflash, superman has a heat vision more powerful than gladiator's and he also has an ice breath, does it help him vs black adam? having more powers does not mean they will actually work against the opponnt or help, i actually laugh at you if you think an ice breath will stop someone like black adam or even slow him down, gladiator may have 1 chance to unleash the ice breath during the entire fight and i really doubt it will change anything at all, after that black adam will be in his face tearing down his face.

so you think black adam isnt a high herald? do we all agree superman is a high herald? whats the difference between superman and black adam? the face black adam doesnt have a heat vision? dude at this point your stupidity reach new levels seriously, black adam is on the same tier as both superman and captain marvel to say that thrio isnt high heralds is just being uneducated about DC comics, the way things are portrayed black adam is a slight notch above those 2 and therefor i said he is reaching the trans level, he went up against a group of heralds and kicking ass left and right, to even say he is below high herald already means you dont know anything.

so you actually think that if adding black adam a heat vision thats what gona make him high herald? unless you dont have a heat vision you just cant be? how dumb is that? and now you go further and say anyone with heat vision can beat him up? 1 word for you "superman".

What are you talking about? Glads is shown to be superior or equal to most top tiers in comics. He has many wins over top tiers. Hell he has matched very powerful beings (above high herald level) multiple times like Tyrant and Cyke with PF. He's inconsistent yes but when he is at his best he is a force to be reckoned with. With that said, you still have no answer for the HV tactic.
You can't use his battles with other beings since those beings aren't weak to HV like BA is.

Originally posted by h1a8
What are you talking about? Glads is shown to be superior or equal to most top tiers in comics. He has many wins over top tiers. Hell he has matched very powerful beings (above high herald level) multiple times like Tyrant and Cyke with PF. He's inconsistent yes but when he is at his best he is a force to be reckoned with. With that said, you still have no answer for the HV tactic.
You can't use his battles with other beings since those beings aren't weak to HV like BA is.

now that a straight up lying, gladiator got the smackdown by any real top tier, masterson hulk thor black bolt supreme champion and the list goes on, he did not defeat anyone worth mentioning unlike black adam who actually beats the top dogs.

name me the wins gladiator has over top tiers such as silver surfer and thor.

he didnt match tyrant he got raped.

he didnt match the phoenix force cyclops, he was able to match him when cyclops wasnt tapping into the phoenix force and wanted gladiator to join them, when he refuced phoenix powered cyclops easily overpowered him as the rest of the phoenix 5.

the heat vision tactic is something superman has and to higher degree than gladiator and it still doesnt seem to do much for superman vs black adam, the heat vision might be a minor problem for adam but he will close the distance gap right away and start brutalizing gladiator with easy, there is no way gladiator survivng a full encouter with black adam.

prove black adam is weak to any kind of heat vision, just because characater A has some attack to some degree does not mean others have the same level, to be more clear its same thing as saying hulk beat the shit out of gladiator with his fists so gladiator has a weakness to fists, and therefor anyone that can punch will own him, thats how stupid your argument sounds.