When did Cyclops overpower Gladiator? Vice verse...Gladiator overpowered him.
When did a canon fight between Gladiator and Thor happen.?
When did Hulk defeat Gladiator without a plot?
When did Masterson defeat Gladiator without a plot?
Supreme isn't canon and that was a good showing for Glads if it was canon if anyone actually knew who Supreme was.
He did match Tyrant eye blast.
He did better against the Phoenix 5 than any other Herald has.
Red...you have to do better than this.
Originally posted by carver9
When did Cyclops overpower Gladiator? Vice verse...Gladiator overpowered him.When did a canon fight between Gladiator and Thor happen.?
When did Hulk defeat Gladiator without a plot?
When did Masterson defeat Gladiator without a plot?
Supreme isn't canon and that was a good showing for Glads if it was canon if anyone actually knew who Supreme was.
He did match Tyrant eye blast.
He did better against the Phoenix 5 than any other Herald has.
Red...you have to do better than this.
you could see that cyclops blast was overpowering gladiator and comming very close to him watch the scans again.
i already posted the scan its a future gladiator which means he cant be weaker than normal gladiator he is at least equel or better because after all thats his future self.
a plot? hulk was beating the living shit out of gladiator that wasnt a plot that was a massacre.
what plot? masterson beat the shit out of gladiator causing his friends to drag him away he was knocked the phuck out.
the storyline isnt canon however the fight with supreme portrayed how they fight would have been against those 2 if the storyline was canon, i always repeat myself saying that while some storyline isnt canon as the mainstream if the characters arent altered the fights are canon because its basically a portrayel of how the fight would go down between those 2, it was like the marvel vs DC crossover where the fans chose the victor i dont see the problem with supreme owning gladiator.
he did get raped by tyrant.
actually no he didnt, rulk and thing were putting a smackdown on phoenix force namor at first, thats still better than what gladiator did, all gladiator did was punch colossus and after getting overpowered by cyclops blast he jumped on him thats it.
thats the thing carver i dont have to do anything i just let the facts speak for themselves.
Originally posted by red sabre
now that a straight up lying, gladiator got the smackdown by any real top tier, masterson hulk thor black bolt supreme champion and the list goes on, he did not defeat anyone worth mentioning unlike black adam who actually beats the top dogs.name me the wins gladiator has over top tiers such as silver surfer and thor.
he didnt match tyrant he got raped.
he didnt match the phoenix force cyclops, he was able to match him when cyclops wasnt tapping into the phoenix force and wanted gladiator to join them, when he refuced phoenix powered cyclops easily overpowered him as the rest of the phoenix 5.
the heat vision tactic is something superman has and to higher degree than gladiator and it still doesnt seem to do much for superman vs black adam, the heat vision might be a minor problem for adam but he will close the distance gap right away and start brutalizing gladiator with easy, there is no way gladiator survivng a full encouter with black adam.
prove black adam is weak to any kind of heat vision, just because characater A has some attack to some degree does not mean others have the same level, to be more clear its same thing as saying hulk beat the shit out of gladiator with his fists so gladiator has a weakness to fists, and therefor anyone that can punch will own him, thats how stupid your argument sounds.
Dude you just proved that you know nothing about Gladiator and his wins against top tiers as well as his isolated feats that trump anything that BA has done. Carver and some others already posted his wins against top tiers yet you even ignore that.
By feats and portrayal Glads HV>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MM's HV. Read comics.
Glads fighting at his best will be in this forum fight. That means he will use his combat speed, freeze breath, and HV in the fight. Those would pose big problems for BA (especially the HV and freeze breath).
If you disregard current showings and disallow Glads HV and freeze breath while equalizing speed then it would be a slight majority to BA.
But in light of current events (Glads is much more powerful) and in light of HV and freeze breath and somewhat extra combat speed then it is clear that Glads wins the majority.
He did match Tyrant. What were the circumstances to how he got raped?
That's right Tyrant threw someone at him distracting him, allowing Tyrant to pounce handily. This is like getting cheapshotted.
@Red...
You are clearly lying though. You don't know what you are talking about either.
Masterson got DESTROYED by Gladiator. The PLOT is, while defeated, living lightning was flying near by. Masterson controlled living lightning and hit Gladiator in the BACK, a Glads that was standing over him laughing. When they were face to face, Masterson got merked. He snuck attack Gladiator and stunned him with living lightning, someone that isn't even part of his powerset....THEN he gained the advantage. He beat on a Gladiator.that was already koed from a sneak attack. Again, before this, Gladiator treated Masterson like he was fighting Jubilee. You are smarter than this Red.
As for the Thor fight, we don't know where Gladiator power was at since things happen daily in MU. Gladiator could have been hit by a power disrupter before facing Thor, don't know and it doesn't matter since the mod ruled it out. Don't complain to me because you enjoy using non canon fts to argue against Gladiator, go to the mods. Thor has never faced the real Gladiator and we don't use future incarnations to judge a fight.
Lol...Gladiator matched Tyrant eye blast. Tyrant had to literally pound on Gladiator to drop him whereas he one shotted other heralds.
Red...honestly, did you read any of Gladiator battles or are you looking at scans on the internet? During his fight with Hulk, it was shown ON PANEL that his kryptonite was weakening him during the battle. To make matters worse, Hulk then THROWS him in the stuff. PLOT. No telling how long this stuff was impacting Gladiator during this fight. People was in unbelief that Hulk was even capable of hurting Glads and that again happened because of Gladiator kryptonite. Read the books.
Rulk backed by an entire team got some licks on Namor...Gladiator took ok ALL 5 OF THEM and held his own until the end.
Uuuuummm, even during Cyclops powering up, he still didn't overpower Gladiator heat vision. You can argue that it was ABOUT to happen but it fully did not happen. Now look at everything Cyke optic blast has done. Gladiator stopping it with his heat vision, even while Cyclops powering up is a hellava ft.
You don't speak facts because you don't know what you are talking about.
Originally posted by carver9
When did Cyclops overpower Gladiator? Vice verse...Gladiator overpowered him.When did a canon fight between Gladiator and Thor happen.?
When did Hulk defeat Gladiator without a plot?
When did Masterson defeat Gladiator without a plot?
Supreme isn't canon and that was a good showing for Glads if it was canon if anyone actually knew who Supreme was.
He did match Tyrant eye blast.
He did better against the Phoenix 5 than any other Herald has.
Red...you have to do better than this.
i like Gladiator man... don't know why people hate on him on this page the way they do... i am sure most of them are Thor fans so i wonder how they feel about the beating he is taking?
Originally posted by carver9
He is superior. Get over it.
He is not superior to either of them. Your fanboyism doesn't change that.
At absolute best, you could maybe argue that Gladiator's best makes him equal to Thor and Superman's average. But in a feat war against either character, he's going to lose.
Simply shouting "nuh uh" doesn't change that. Neither does holding onto his "planet busting" feat.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He is not superior to either of them. Your fanboyism doesn't change that.At absolute best, you could maybe argue that Gladiator's best makes him equal to Thor and Superman's average. But in a feat war against either character, he's going to lose.
Simply shouting "nuh uh" doesn't change that. Neither does holding onto his "planet busting" feat.
Busting a planet isn't the only thing. You are ignoring his fts entirely. Withstanding a blast point blank that was capable of shedding half a solar system. Containing this same blast with enough density that it created a star. Light speed reaction. Swimming in a GAS GIANT millions of miles without trouble. Stalemating Tyrants eye blast...moving planetary objects. He IS in their tier (I would say above)...and you ignoring this doesn't change anything.
Like I've said...get over it.
Originally posted by carver9
Busting a planet isn't the only thing. You are ignoring his fts entirely. Withstanding a blast point blank that was capable of shedding half a solar system. Containing this same blast with enough density that it created a star. Light speed reaction. Swimming in a GAS GIANT millions of miles without trouble. Stalemating Tyrants eye blast...moving planetary objects. He IS in their tier (I would say above)...and you ignoring this doesn't change anything.Like I've said...get over it.
You act like those feats shit on everything Thor and Superman have ever done, which is ridiculous.
Do I really need to drop feats for both of them? Or do you honestly think Gladiator is beyond them?
Saying he's in their tier is one thing. Arguable, but not insane. Above it entirely?
Gimme some of the rocks you're smokin', please.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankHis planet busting feat has never been matched by superman or thor. Gladiator has not been around as long as supes or thor and rarely show up in a comic, thats why you run to your tired " feat war excuse ". Superman and thor DO NOT have the strength to destroy a planet with their fists, they have been around forever and have NEVER come close to being able to. Gladiator in his rare appearances HAS done it. For ALL of supes and thors best feats, you cannot for the life of you show either one destroying ANYTHING as large as a planet with their fists alone, thats why you cry and call that planet a " giant space rock " hoping you can fool people into believing it was as small as that moon that koed superman. Gladiator is superior, your constant hate does not change that.
He is not superior to either of them. Your fanboyism doesn't change that.At absolute best, you could maybe argue that Gladiator's best makes him equal to Thor and Superman's average. But in a feat war against either character, he's going to lose.
Simply shouting "nuh uh" doesn't change that. Neither does holding onto his "planet busting" feat.