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Make speed equalized, 'cause Madara is blitzing this.
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2. Madara blitzes. Even with the same speed, Aizen's strongest attack is between Sage!Naruto and Pain's max CT.
Was thinking that Aizen can get in edge-wise with his illusions, but for some reason forgot what the Sharingan is famous for..
Madara reacts to Rasenshuriken, which is what was calced at Mach 11.
Rasenshuriken being faster than Aizen is a load of bollocks if you ask me, but I haven't looked over the calcs.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Madara reacts to Rasenshuriken, which is what was calced at Mach 11.Rasenshuriken being faster than Aizen is a load of bollocks if you ask me, but I haven't looked over the calcs.
Ok, fair enough, but thats still just a reaction feat. All he had to do was turn on the Rinnengan. I'm not convinced he can fight at that speed.
Aizen is probably the only villain I know who's so bad that he actually becomes good. But his evolution designs sucked.
Sentiments aside, Madara is definitely written slower than Aizen. Clinging to the reaction of a projectile poorly estimated to be in the 3.7 km/s range ignoring that none of the Kage -- most of who aren't much faster than the average Jōnin -- had no trouble keeping up with him is ridiculous.
Originally posted by AstnerMadara blitzed all of the Kage. Including A, at one point.
Aizen is probably the only villain I know who's so bad that he actually becomes good. But his evolution designs sucked.Sentiments aside, Madara is definitely written slower than Aizen. Clinging to the reaction of a projectile poorly estimated to be in the 3.7 km/s range ignoring that none of the Kage -- most of who aren't much faster than the average Jōnin -- had no trouble keeping up with him is ridiculous.
Not that this really matters. If Madara can get up Final Susano'o, he probably wins.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Madara reacts to Rasenshuriken, which is what was calced at Mach 11.Rasenshuriken being faster than Aizen is a load of bollocks if you ask me, but I haven't looked over the calcs.
This doesn't mean he is as fast. he was able to react to something, he was not able to avoid it. That's two separate things. Same with being able to block A's charge. He was able to pull up a block. not avoid it like say, Naruto did.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Madara blitzed all of the Kage. Including A, at one point.Not that this really matters. If Madara can get up Final Susano'o, he probably wins.
Hmmm, really? If true then that would be impressive. I don't recall that though.
Aizen's attacks are pretty powerful. Plus iirc we havn't seen how durable the Final Susano'o is. Also, in the first round it would be hard for Madara to put Aizen down for good considering Aizen can just regenerate. Meanwhile, Aizen might be able to seal Madara in Kurohitsugi (that gravity attack he used).
Originally posted by Nephthys
Ok, fair enough, but thats still just a reaction feat. All he had to do was turn on the Rinnengan. I'm not convinced he can fight at that speed.
Madara moves faster than Mū while evading Gaara's Sand.
Mū is capable of dodging attacks before other Kages. Mū is also capable of dodging an attack from Naruto in his Kyuubi Chakra Mode.
Gaara's Sand is fast enough to stop A & Sasuke from owning each other.
Originally posted by Astner
Madara didn't blitz the Kage, this is what a blitz is:These captains -- including Suì-Fēng, the fastest of them -- were all taken out without effort or ability to defend themselves.
What Aizen did is not very different from what Madara did, seeing as both the Captains & the 5 Kage were distracted before getting blitzed.
Originally posted by socool8520
This doesn't mean he is as fast. he was able to react to something, he was not able to avoid it. That's two separate things. Same with being able to block A's charge. He was able to pull up a block. not avoid it like say, Naruto did.
Look at the situation he was in, and you'll see why he wasn't able to evade those attacks, despite being able to easily react to them.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Madara moves faster than Mū while evading Gaara's Sand.Mū is capable of dodging attacks before other Kages. Mū is also capable of dodging an attack from Naruto in his Kyuubi Chakra Mode.
Mu is able to dodge better than most because he is a sensory type. He doesn't really have to be that fast because he senses it coming. These scans only prove that he can sense things better than the other kages. Same with the Naruto feat. Even Oonoki inferred it was because he was a sensor. As for the Madara and Muu movement thing, I don't really see how that equates to Madara being faster. They jumped in oppsite directions.
Gaara's Sand is fast enough to stop A & Sasuke from owning each other.
This doesn't prove much. A was moving downwards. So he was coming down as fast as gravity allows. That's shit compared to most speed feat in the Manga. i would have been more impressed with the sand blocking Gaara from being hit with a kick from 5 gates Lee.
What Aizen did is not very different from what Madara did, seeing as both the Captains & the 5 Kage were distracted before getting blitzed.
I find this example to be much different than what you are comparing with Madara. This guy is moving so fast they can't react at all.