The Avengers vs. The Cullens

Started by Mindset25 pages

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
OK, someone walks up to Thor and thrusts a razor sharp blade at his neck. What happens? The blade breaks? The skin resists?
The blade bends, breaks, w/e, it doesn't pierce him.

Thor and Iron Man stomp the vampires.

Thor throw a couple of lightning bolt and tornadoes, and Iron Man carped bomb the rest. And if it goes on h2h, well, shit, 'cause Hulk is waiting in the corner, just to grab one whiny ******* and stomp him senseless.

Whatever, Avengers win

No one from the avengers has the fighting speed to take the vamps H2H.

However, Stark has them in a straight line and with weapons lockon capabilities.

Hulk is too slow to be able to keep up with speedsters (in the films, you paper tigers). Thor can't really keep up either. Blackwidow and Hawkeye are not even contenders. Captain America is not far above that.

The only characters that will be hard to put down are Thor and Hulk due to their durability. Since neither of them will be fast enough to keep up with the Vamps, it is a war of attrition as the vamps will have to bite them and tear their flesh off to win.

Tony Stark may get one or two vampires but Alice will make his weapons useless.

Again, I saw the Twilight movie fights, I don't really see any blur-level speed fighting here. They're fast, like Blonksy-pre-Abomination fast. Maybe faster. But movie-wise, nothing was shown them to be untouchable.

Tactics-wise, Thor has flight, AoE tornades, hammer shockwave blasts (Jotunheim and Avengers forest-clearing blast), spread-type lightning blasts (used to block the portal temporarily during Avengers).

Hulk shrugged off aircraft-grade depleted Uranium rounds. I SERIOUSLY doubt vampires can generate penetration power with their fangs comparable to this.

To tear someone's throats, you need to tackle/grapple the person from the front or side and that would put them in range of Thor's/Hulk's fist w/c I have no doubt would crush them to powder.

Cap/Widow/Hawkeye would die. But Thor/Hulk/IM rapes.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No one from the avengers has the fighting speed to take the vamps H2H.

However, Stark has them in a straight line and with weapons lockon capabilities.

Hulk is too slow to be able to keep up with speedsters (in the films, you paper tigers). Thor can't really keep up either. Blackwidow and Hawkeye are not even contenders. Captain America is not far above that.

The only characters that will be hard to put down are Thor and Hulk due to their durability. Since neither of them will be fast enough to keep up with the Vamps, it is a war of attrition as the vamps will have to bite them and tear their flesh off to win.

Tony Stark may get one or two vampires but Alice will make his weapons useless.

Nope, IM solos.

Originally posted by Mindset
The blade bends, breaks, w/e, it doesn't pierce him.

Mhm, sure. Yet Loki was able to stab him and pierce his armor AND skin.

Have a nice day.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
If Loki can pierce Thor's skin with a blade, a twivamp can pierce Thor's skin with their teeth.

/discussion.

Loki's blades are mystical, or did you miss them flashing with energy when he used them against the Frost Giants?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Again, I saw the Twilight movie fights, I don't really see any blur-level speed fighting here. They're fast, like Blonksy-pre-Abomination fast. Maybe faster. But movie-wise, nothing was shown them to be untouchable.
Totally inaccurate. Their speed is WAY too much for the Avengers to keep up with.

Tactics-wise, Thor has flight, AoE tornades, hammer shockwave blasts (Jotunheim and Avengers forest-clearing blast), spread-type lightning blasts (used to block the portal temporarily during Avengers).
Cool story. Although Thor gets his throat ripped out by fangs that can indeed pierce his skin.

Hulk shrugged off aircraft-grade depleted Uranium rounds. I SERIOUSLY doubt vampires can generate penetration power with their fangs comparable to this.[/b]
Jasper.

To tear someone's throats, you need to tackle/grapple the person from the front or side and that would put them in range of Thor's/Hulk's fist w/c I have no doubt would crush them to powder.

Nope. The twilight vampires are fast enough to speed blitz Thor, rip out his throat, and be on their way before Thor knows what hit him.

Cap/Widow/Hawkeye would die. But Thor/Hulk/IM rapes.
All die. Hulk, he gets calmed.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Mhm, sure. Yet Loki was able to stab him and pierce his armor AND skin.

Have a nice day.

This is kinda like me saying:

"And yet Edward's teeth managed to decapitate Victoria. Thus Vampire durability < Teeth."

Originally posted by Nibedicus
This is kinda like me saying:

"And yet Edward's teeth managed to decapitate Victoria. Thus Vampire durability < Teeth."

Especially since Loki's daggers aren't normal, like I said earlier, they were glowing in the fight with the Frost Giants.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Totally inaccurate. Their speed is WAY too much for the Avengers to keep up with.

When was this? Pls cite examples in the movie.

Throughout ALL their fights in the movie, they were moving fast but not too fast to follow.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Cool story. Although Thor gets his throat ripped out by fangs that can indeed pierce his skin.

What is their best piercing "feat"?

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Jasper.

It's arguable he'd calm Hulk faster than Hulk gets mad.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Nope. The twilight vampires are fast enough to speed blitz Thor, rip out his throat, and be on their way before Thor knows what hit him.

Not according to what they showed in the movies.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
All die. Hulk, he gets calmed.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
This is kinda like me saying:

"And yet Edward's teeth managed to decapitate Victoria. Thus Vampire durability < Teeth."

Did Loki stab Thor or didn't he? Yes, he did.

The force behind a twilight vampire bite is far beyond the strength Loki put behind the stab.

Pretty simple.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Did Loki stab Thor or didn't he? Yes, he did.

The force behind a twilight vampire bite is far beyond the strength Loki put behind the stab.

Pretty simple.

With a mystical dagger, try again.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Did Loki stab Thor or didn't he? Yes, he did.

The force behind a twilight vampire bite is far beyond the strength Loki put behind the stab.

Pretty simple.

Asgardian weapons pierce Asgardians. The same way vampire teeth can pierce vampires.

Vampire teeth piercing Asgardians? Arguable. We need "feets" in order to determine that.

Originally posted by Silent Master
With a mystical dagger, try again.
Mystical? Look, ff to 1:22

YouTube video

It is nothing more than a hand held dagger. Prove that it is "mystical", and that it's "mystical powers" enabled Loki to stab Thor.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Asgardian weapons pierce Asgardians. The same way vampire teeth can pierce vampires.

Vampire teeth piercing Asgardians? Arguable. We need "feets" in order to determine that.

Oh, I see, so the only weapon/s in all the realms that can penetrate Asgardian skin is Asgardian weaponry? Prove it.

Already did. Edward chewed Victoria's head clean off. Are you saying that Thor's skin is more durable than granite? Prove it.

Per the Thor movie, the daggers are magical.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Per the Thor movie, the daggers are magical.

When was his stated? What scene? I got the dvd right here.

Also, you still have to prove that only Asgardian weaponry can pierce Asgardian skin. Tread carefully on this one.

It was shown, or did you miss the daggers glowing during the fight with the Frost Giants?

Originally posted by Silent Master
It was shown, or did you miss the daggers glowing during the fight with the Frost Giants?
I caught that, but the dagger Loki stabbed Thor with was just a plain old dagger. You gotta prove that it was "mystical" and that said "mystical qualities" enabled it to pierce Thor's skin.

I'll say this: If this link were allowed:

http://thor.wikia.com/wiki/Thor_%28Thor_Odinson%29

Then yeah, Thor solos.