The Avengers vs. The Cullens

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Oh, I see, so the only weapon/s in all the realms that can penetrate Asgardian skin is Asgardian weaponry? Prove it.

Never said that, sport.

What I said is that Asgardian weapons SHOULD pierce Asgardian skin the same way that vampire teeth SHOULD pierce vampire skin.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Already did. Edward chewed Victoria's head clean off. Are you saying that Thor's skin is more durable than granite? Prove it.

Iron Man used his fists to punch thru reinforced concrete during Iron Man 1. Same material Thor was slowly crushing with his bare hands as well as dented with a headbutt (without breaking his skin).

There you go.

Your turn to prove things:

-Prove that their speed will be too much for Thor/Hulk.
-Pls provide evidence on what their teeth has been shown to piece.
-Prove that Jasper's power can calm the Hulk. When has he calmed someone strong enough to make them not want to defend themselves in a fight.

Even if we grant you that the daggers might be different, you'd still have to prove that the Cullen's teeth/nails are as shrap and durable as the dagger Loki used against Thor.

So, start posting feats of them ripping/cutting anything on Thor's level of durability.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Never said that, sport.

What I said is that Asgardian weapons SHOULD pierce Asgardian skin the same way that vampire teeth SHOULD pierce vampire skin.

OK, and? What matters is that Thor's skin was pierced by a weapon that will not pierce a twilight vampire's skin. Now, considering the fact that a dagger (which will do no harm to a twilight vampire) pierced Thor's skin, and the fact that vampire fangs can rip a twilight vampire to pieces, do the math. Vampire teeth>>>>the dagger that pierced Thor's skin.

Iron Man used his fists to punch thru reinforced concrete during Iron Man 1. Same material Thor was slowly crushing with his bare hands as well as dented with a headbutt (without breaking his skin).

There you go.

Originally posted by Nibedicus

Your turn to prove things:

-Prove that their speed will be too much for Thor/Hulk.
-Pls provide evidence on what their teeth has been shown to piece.
-Prove that Jasper's power can calm the Hulk. When has he calmed someone strong enough to make them not want to defend themselves in a fight.

-It's right there in the movies, the vampires fight at speeds which none of the Avengers can match. It's not even comparable.

-Vampire skin that is tougher than Thor's skin.

-unless I am mistaken, Banner was in complete control at the end and his mind was still present when he was fighting.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Even if we grant you that the daggers might be different, you'd still have to prove that the Cullen's teeth/nails are as shrap and durable as the dagger Loki used against Thor.

So, start posting feats of them ripping/cutting anything on Thor's level of durability.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
OK, and? What matters is that Thor's skin was pierced by a weapon that will not pierce a twilight vampire's skin.

Prove that it won't pierce a twivamp's skin.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Now, considering the fact that a dagger (which will do no harm to a twilight vampire) pierced Thor's skin, and the fact that vampire fangs can rip a twilight vampire to pieces, do the math. Vampire teeth>>>>the dagger that pierced Thor's skin.

You went to a conclusion without first proving your theory. Try again pls.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
IM did so with nowhere near enough speed to tag a Twilight vampire. Same for Thor. The vampires are WAY too fast.

You asked for proof that Thor's skin is harder than granite. Speed has nothing to do with this at all.

Besides, it's your turn to prove things:

-Prove that their speed will be too much for Thor/Hulk.
-Pls provide evidence on what their teeth has been shown to piece.
-Prove that Jasper's power can calm the Hulk. When has he calmed someone strong enough to make them not want to defend themselves in a fight.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Lol, I already have done this, but you are ignoring it. Counter what I said and stop asking the same questions over and over.

As of yet, You have provided no examples of the vamps ripping/cutting anything on Thor's level of durability.

If you want to claim that they can, start providing feats.

For that matter, using only movie "feats", PROVE that twivamp skin is as hard as granite. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
-It's right there in the movies, the vampires fight at speeds which none of the Avengers can match. It's not even comparable.

They're definitely faster. Fast enough to avoid attacks and deal damage? Maybe. Fast enough that Thor would be standing still while they grapple him from the front/side and rip out his throat BEFORE he can:
a) Fly off?
b) Raise his hand to defend himself and push them off once they've latched on?
c) Move his head so as to protect his throat with his chin?

Don't think so.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Vampire skin that is tougher than Thor's skin.

Hell no. The best "feats" they have are ppl simply stating that their skin is "as hard as granite". We've seen Edward crack Riley's head open simply by smashing his head into a rock. Thor's head dented metal that can punch thru reinforced concrete like it was made of Styrofoam.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
unless I am mistaken, Banner was in complete control at the end and his mind was still present when he was fighting.

And how does this help your argument? Banner developed his mind as to be able to maintain his anger consistently. You need to show Jasper affecting someone who is actively increasing/maintaining one's anger vs his ability to calm them.

Isn't hulk's blood poison? If the vampires bite him could they die?

edit: nvm

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Mhm, sure. Yet Loki was able to stab him and pierce his armor AND skin.

Have a nice day.

Bunch of Twilight fanboys "vampires are too fast, Avengers will never touch them!!!11!! Duuurrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!"

The vast majority (read: all but one, Edward fight) of the Twilight fight scenes the vampires aren't blitzing around at super-speeds and throwing punches like the Flash.

YouTube video

Thor, Hulk or Iron Man could solo.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Mhm, sure. Yet Loki was able to stab him and pierce his armor AND skin.

Have a nice day.

loki's dagger was most likely magical in nature.. second the dagger didn't even hurt thor

Thor survived a repulsor blast to the face. Pretty good feat of toughness there. Loki also was pretty much bulletproof as shown at the start of The Avengers.

Vamps are strong, but no where near as strong as the Hulk (and possible Thor). I'd peg the vamp's strengths at around IM's level.

Avengers have more artillery as well... but the reason I think this will be a good fight is because of the Cullen's speed. Anyone who claims they aren't speed blitzing fast probably refuses to acknowledge the fact. You see them blur around all the time in the movies. I don't recall any human able to hit them, only other vamps and werewolves (and the werewolves were also mentioned to be fast). Sure, they may not be Flash-like fast, but they are still way faster than the fastest member of the Avengers, and the Avengers will have hell of a hard time catching them.

The Cullens also have a precog and a telepath. I'm still leaning on the side of the Avengers here, I just don't think it's going to be an easy win. At least half of the Avengers die anyway.

Originally posted by Robtard
Bunch of Twilight fanboys "vampires are too fast, Avengers will never touch them!!!11!! Duuurrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!"

The vast majority (read: all but one, Edward fight) of the Twilight fight scenes the vampires aren't blitzing around at super-speeds and throwing punches like the Flash.

YouTube video

Thor, Hulk or Iron Man could solo.

Pretty much the only part of those movies I actually liked. Good fight scene. 👆

Originally posted by FrothByte
Thor survived a repulsor blast to the face. Pretty good feat of toughness there. Loki also was pretty much bulletproof as shown at the start of The Avengers.

Vamps are strong, but no where near as strong as the Hulk (and possible Thor). I'd peg the vamp's strengths at around IM's level.

Avengers have more artillery as well... but the reason I think this will be a good fight is because of the Cullen's speed. Anyone who claims they aren't speed blitzing fast probably refuses to acknowledge the fact. You see them blur around all the time in the movies. I don't recall any human able to hit them, only other vamps and werewolves (and the werewolves were also mentioned to be fast). Sure, they may not be Flash-like fast, but they are still way faster than the fastest member of the Avengers, and the Avengers will have hell of a hard time catching them.

The Cullens also have a precog and a telepath. I'm still leaning on the side of the Avengers here, I just don't think it's going to be an easy win. At least half of the Avengers die anyway.

Iron-man kicked Thor so hard that when he hit a tree, it exploded...when have the Cullens shown anywhere near that level of strength?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Iron-man kicked Thor so hard that when he hit a tree, it exploded...when have the Cullens shown anywhere near that level of strength?

And Thor didn't even look hurt by it. Just annoyed. How's that for durability?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
And Thor didn't even look hurt by it. Just annoyed. How's that for durability?

Plus, when Thor hit Cap's shield it caused a shockwave that appeared to knock down multiple trees, Neither Thor or Iron-man looked to be hurt by it.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
This is kinda like me saying:

"And yet Edward's teeth managed to decapitate Victoria. Thus Vampire durability < Teeth."

But if you said that, that would be accurate not only for the movies but for the books. The teeth are virtually indestructible in the twilight books...just not established too well in the movies.

Basically, Vamps ARE less durable than their teeth...just like humans are to their own teeth. Jeez! Don't you watch Walking Dead? lol

Originally posted by Robtard
Bunch of Twilight fanboys "vampires are too fast, Avengers will never touch them!!!11!! Duuurrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!"

The vast majority (read: all but one, Edward fight) of the Twilight fight scenes the vampires aren't blitzing around at super-speeds and throwing punches like the Flash.

YouTube video

Thor, Hulk or Iron Man could solo.

Bunch of gimpy bullshit from a different director that had a different vision of the vampires.

Here's a sick/starving Edward going up against one of if not the best H2H fighters in the Twilight saga:

YouTube video

All in slow-mo.

lol, pwned. Thread is done.