Originally posted by Robtard
If Edward with his (omg!!111!!!) tree pushing strength can break apart his own kind, which by the way a bulldozer can knock down trees, a M.O.A.B. will shatter them to tiny little bits and pieces and then burn up those tiny little bits and pieces.
Originally posted by Robtard
We do know how durable they are, someone one with the strength to push down a tree (ie a large bulldozer) can tear them apart.Which means they couldn't take over the planet back when man had spears and horses, so the modern US Army > their asses day and night.
Wrong: a large bulldozer could not replicate that feat. The bulldozer's wrap the chains underneath the base of the tree and pull up at a much less horizontal force. Additionally, the tree stumps they can uproot are dead trees that are not in frozen ground.
Originally posted by omgchos
This is one of the Twilight major Plotholes IMO why arent the vamps just ourtight masters of the world? Super speed, invulnerability, they can smell humans for miles, and they can light up a dance floor.
I believe that that was a goal of Aro's at one point...or maybe it was the vampires that Aro overthrew...I don't remember. But Aro said they should rule from the shadows.
Originally posted by Mindset
IM cuts them all done with lasers./thread
Ironman misses them all with his lasers because he does not have the mental speed to keep up.
Originally posted by omgchos
Thats my point. All we have is them vs other vamps and them vs overgrown skinwalkers.
So the vamps has zero durability feats that even come close, good to know.
Now, what strength feats do they have that come close to this
Originally posted by Silent Master
So the vamps has zero durability feats that even come close, good to know.Now, what strength feats do they have that come close to this
Again thats the point im making. Theres not enough strength but there is enough speed.
Originally posted by dadudemonHe spins around and spam lasers.Ironman misses them all with his lasers because he does not have the mental speed to keep up.
He doesn't need the mental speed to keep up.
/thread
Congrats team Avengers.
Originally posted by Silent Master
So basically, the vamps can't harm Thor, Hulk or Iron-man but you believe that the vamps are to fast to be hit?
Along those lines but we did see that hulk thor and iron man did get dmaged to some extent. And we know the vamps have at the very least superhuman strength whick IMO might be enough to damage at least iron man and thor. Hulk is another story.
Originally posted by Mindset
He spins around and spam lasers.He doesn't need the mental speed to keep up.
/thread
Congrats team Avengers.
He cant spam a one off.......
Originally posted by Mindset
He spammed it in that scene...
He used it once then stated he could only use it once. It burns up the power cell after one use. Spamming by definition means that you keep using the same thing over and over. If they managed to dodge his first attempt then there wouldnt be a second.
Originally posted by omgchos
He used it once then stated he could only use it once. It burns up the power cell after one use. Spamming by definition means that you keep using the same thing over and over. If they managed to dodge his first attempt then there wouldnt be a second.
He spammed his lasers, get over it.
Lasers > Vamps
Avengers win.
/thread
Originally posted by Mindset
If I have 100 bullets, and I shoot them all in one instance, I spammed my bullets.He spammed his lasers, get over it.
Lasers > Vamps
Avengers win.
/thread
He didnt have 100 lasers. He had one on each hand. By your definition if i shot my 1 stinger missle at a helicopter i spammed my stinger.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Wrong: a large bulldozer could not replicate that feat. The bulldozer's wrap the chains underneath the base of the tree and pull up at a much less horizontal force. Additionally, the tree stumps they can uproot are dead trees that are not in frozen ground.
LoL:
Granted, it's a smaller tree, but that's also a small dozer. A large dozer could easily do what Edward did.
Originally posted by omgchosNo, he had a charge equal to several attacks.
He didnt have 100 lasers. He had one on each hand. By your definition if i shot my 1 stinger missle at a helicopter i spammed my stinger.
You seemed to want to dodge the fact that IM solos with the lasers.
Get over it, he does.
Originally posted by Mindset
No, he had a charge equal to several attacks.You seemed to want to dodge the fact that IM solos with the lasers.
Get over it, he does.
Look if it makes you feel better im not really siding one way or the other as of yet. Put aside what spamming means and you're still left with their super speed. His laser (as all lasers do) travels in a straight line wherever he points his arms. When he fires it they dodge his first swipe and are right in his face before one of his arms comes around for another pass. His speed in the drone fight was about as fast as a human could move them along with his upper body to make that sweeping motion. Since the vamps are obviously much faster than humans this attack is easily dodge-able. Iron man gets a face full of vamp fist if hes stupid enough to stand on the ground with his lasers when his clear advantage would be flight and his target seeking missles. This i think is where he might overcome them.
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL:Granted, it's a smaller tree, but that's also a small dozer. A large dozer could easily do what Edward did.
*uses small dozer and small tree in warm climate*
You didn't even come close to proving your point. The white paper I posted said 5 times as much power is required to pull of a horizontal uprooting. That puts Edward in the 200-400 tonne-force range.
Originally posted by Mindset
He spins around and spam lasers.He doesn't need the mental speed to keep up.
/thread
Congrats team Avengers.
And he misses do to not being able to see them move and the vamps easily dodge.
It was a nice try.
Originally posted by dadudemon
*uses small dozer and small tree in warm climate*
You didn't even come close to proving your point. The white paper I posted said 5 times as much power is required to pull of a horizontal uprooting.That puts Edward in the 200-400 tonne-force range.
Unfortunately not everything is on youtube and as I said, people generally don't plow down tree like that cos it's dangerous, not that it can't be done with heavy equipment.
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Originally posted by omgchos
Along those lines but we did see that hulk thor and iron man did get dmaged to some extent. And we know the vamps have at the very least superhuman strength whick IMO might be enough to damage at least iron man and thor. Hulk is another story.
Iron-man got hit by multi-ton turbine blades for several seconds and the armor remained intact, what feats do the vamps have to even suggest they can inflict even 1/100th that amount of damage?