Originally posted by Stoic
I guess this is just a fight of what God has given them, and no outside help of any kind. You can't really nerf BM, or rob him of his natural gifts, just because Orion can't get around like BM can you? I don't see it as being unfair. BM would win this most likely.
with flight prolly. what's the point of a slugfest if you nerf one character's ability to fly? i think the op meant a real slugfest and no bfr'ing into space/air for potshots. lol with god given gifts because flight is both a part of their powersets. in a true slugfest, aint no way BM is winning. Orion has herald level strength and durability. That showing with the lead is complete cis. It's as bad as Spiderman hurting Firelord with his bare hands. He is also arguably the best combatant of a race of gods. Funny thing is he is prolly more suited in a slugfest than a fight that allows the use of his powerset in its entirety. He takes a majority.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
with flight prolly. what's the point of a slugfest if you nerf one character's ability to fly? i think the op meant a real slugfest and no bfr'ing into space/air for potshots. lol with god given gifts because flight is both a part of their powersets. in a true slugfest, aint no way BM is winning. Orion has herald level strength and durability. That showing with the lead is complete cis. It's as bad as Spiderman hurting Firelord with his bare hands. He is also arguably the best combatant of a race of gods. Funny thing is he is prolly more suited in a slugfest than a fight that allows the use of his powerset in its entirety. He takes a majority.
No without the harness he does not have the ability to fly. That's like saying that Tony Stark has the power to fly under his own steam without the armor. We both know that he can not. in a slugfest BM would have beaten that entire team of Avengers if he was not trying to talk it out with them. A team which was comprised of Sentry, Wonder Man, Ironman, and Ms. Marvel. The four together make up for quite the power team. We know that BM is top of the food chain herald level.
1. Orion weighs how much? Could BM float him into space with one good shot? I'm thinking yes.
2. Once Orion goes up should BM take it easy, go up and get him from space, bring his ass back down and ask if he'd like to take another trip to the outskirts of the moon, or should he play Dragon Ball Z ping pong with him? Yeah in a real fight I think he'd play ping pong with the now helpless floater named Orion, until the darkness of sleep holds him.
BM for a nice majority.
Originally posted by Stoic
No without the harness he does not have the ability to fly. That's like saying that Tony Stark has the power to fly under his own steam without the armor. We both know that he can not. in a slugfest BM would have beaten that entire team of Avengers if he was not trying to talk it out with them. A team which was comprised of Sentry, Wonder Man, Ironman, and Ms. Marvel. The four together make up for quite the power team. We know that BM is top of the food chain herald level.1. Orion weighs how much? Could BM float him into space with one good shot? I'm thinking yes.
2. Once Orion goes up should BM take it easy, go up and get him from space, bring his ass back down and ask if he'd like to take another trip to the outskirts of the moon, or should he play Dragon Ball Z ping pong with him? Yeah in a real fight I think he'd play ping pong with the now helpless floater named Orion, until the darkness of sleep holds him.
BM for a nice majority.
his harness is his ability to fly. the harness is part of the character. ure using a bad analogy. anyways in a true h2h fight, Orion 7/10. at least.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
his harness is his ability to fly. the harness is part of the character. ure using a bad analogy. anyways in a true h2h fight, Orion 7/10. at least.
Tony's boot rockets give him the ability to fly, but without them. Whoops. I know exactly what you were saying, but nope because when Orion floats BM with a good one, BM comes back down due to his natural abilities, but when Orion gets floated, he doesn't have the natural ability to come back, and thus BM can punch him to Orion. I wonder how many punches it would take? You see Orion floated means no leverage. Again BM for the majority due to natural ability. And that's with all analogies, and excuses aside. It's like asking whether or not Spiderman has the natural ability to out leap an average human. We know that he does.
Yep BM for the majority, great fight on the ground though, at least until ... well you know 😄
Originally posted by abhilegend
Orion can fly without astro harness.😐
Oh so that's why he uses that harness to get around. Makes plenty sense. Don't you think? I mean why the heck would he bother flying if he could use the harness right? Show me Orion flying under his own power without some plot device, or being inhabited by the Source. Show me him flying at speeds that rival Superman's and make sure the context is not some cheap one shot.
Also why wouldn't his fan celeyhyga17 know this, or state such in any of his posts? Why doesn't that show up in his bio?
Originally posted by Stoic
Oh so that's why he uses that harness to get around. Makes plenty sense. Don't you think? I mean why the heck would he bother flying if he could use the harness right? Show me Orion flying under his own power without some plot device, or being inhabited by the Source. Show me him flying at speeds that rival Superman's and make sure the context is not some cheap one shot.Also why wouldn't his fan celeyhyga17 know this, or state such in any of his posts? Why doesn't that show up in his bio?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
u talkin bout the aero disks?
Originally posted by abhilegend
No need for me to do it. As per the rule unless specified characters retain their standard equipment like wonder woman and thor wouldn't lose their bracers and mjolnir in a slugfest. Blue marvel can't fly at superman level, so its moot anyway.
Nope. I would find the scan.
The thread starter said no gadgets for this battle, only their natural gifts.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Astro harness is no gadget, its orion's power's menifestation. He produces it from his own power.
That's news to me, I mean this is what is stated about the harness
The "Astro-Harness" is an alien artifact of unknown origin, capable of self-repair; flight at incredible speeds; inter-spatial and inter-dimensional travel energy projection and absorption; force field generation; and possesses a tractor beam.
yeah man you should go and fix that wiki bio of his, because it seems all out of whack, and while you're at it, perhaps a stern letter to those writers that do pesky things like never say that he has a secret fat pocket that he stores that mofo in.
Originally posted by Stoic
That's news to me, I mean this is what is stated about the harness[b]The "Astro-Harness" is an alien artifact of unknown origin, capable of self-repair; flight at incredible speeds; inter-spatial and inter-dimensional travel energy projection and absorption; force field generation; and possesses a tractor beam.
yeah man you should go and fix that wiki bio of his, because it seems all out of whack, and while you're at it, perhaps a stern letter to those writers that do pesky things like never say that he has a secret fat pocket that he stores that mofo in. [/B]
Originally posted by Stoic
That's news to me, I mean this is what is stated about the harness[b]The "Astro-Harness" is an alien artifact of unknown origin, capable of self-repair; flight at incredible speeds; inter-spatial and inter-dimensional travel energy projection and absorption; force field generation; and possesses a tractor beam.
yeah man you should go and fix that wiki bio of his, because it seems all out of whack, and while you're at it, perhaps a stern letter to those writers that do pesky things like never say that he has a secret fat pocket that he stores that mofo in. [/B]
http://imageshack.us/f/40/orion21172.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/11/orion21191.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/4/orion21192.jpg/
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's what you get by reading wiki.
Ha ha, you made a funny.
I had to read the wiki to get a better idea of what Orion can do. I have read some of his appearances, but not many that may have had some key power displays. all the same OP asks for no devices, which includes the harness, but even with it, I believe that BM could cause damage to it allowing him the ability to take advantage of the opening. It would be a good fight no matter.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
http://imageshack.us/f/40/orion21172.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/11/orion21191.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/4/orion21192.jpg/
Thanks but I have that comic. Cool display of the Astro Force. That makes Orion a low level matter manipulator.
