Orion vs Blue Marvel (hth/slugfest)

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
What about doing relatively well against Sun amped Superman?

You know, Ultimo Superman.

Superman standing near sun:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-01.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-02-03.jpg

Orion vs Superman:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-14.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-15.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-16.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-17.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-18.jpg

Superman confirmed he was amped:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-21.jpg

And it's not like this is an outlier with Orion's history either. He's usually written pretty damned high. Better when the only affairs in Mortal stuff is solely with Superman.

It comes down to this, should we delete his numerous numerous fights against Superman/Darkseid where he does extremely well as well as many many other great feats because he got jobbed out against Doomsday, Kalibak/Firestorm, and both him and Supes jobbed to Shaggy Man, because you don't feel he should be judged solely by his Superman fights which many people who don't know a lot about Orion are prone to do?
Unfornunately this many fights against Superman isn't an accident. And the characters in DC like Orion/Marvel/others are proven to be Superman level, as opposed to simple Superman clones in Marvel we feel should be. They aren't just "I fought Superman" characters either, they have a good history with high level feats.

As well as Orion slaughters Nova.

That's all fine and well. It certainly works in his favor. But the point I was attempting to make is that in a forum setting it's not always as simple as who you've fought. Sometimes it takes looking at each individual match up, Breaking down the resume, what skills /abilities they bring to the table etc (which you did btw) gives us the knowledge we need to come to a rational decision as to who wins. If we take the parochial approach of "he punched Superman really hard thus he wins" then its not even worth our time to look at the vast majority of any of these matches.

You just happened to come into the thread at the right time and give the added depth to the thread that was lacking. Enough so that you make me lean towards Orion in this.

Nova would make Orion bow down and join the Nova corps... As a denarian sneer

Orion, is a better fighter and does have the astro force!! This strictly H2h it Orion all the way, other abilities still Orion!!

? why isn't Marvel using Blue Marvel more, he could easily by the MM of the Avengers he has some potential better than Sentry!?

Originally posted by the Darkone
? why isn't Marvel using Blue Marvel more, he could easily by the MM of the Avengers he has some potential better than Sentry!?

He's kinda hard to place in a primary Avengers squad. They have brains (Stark/Pym) and they have plenty of muscle. The academy could use a heavyweight like him in the role of teacher/mentor. I could see Hickman using him on the New Avengers.

They should make an all black team with Blue Marvel on it under Bendis.

Luke Cage would be the muscle.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
They should make an all black team with Blue Marvel on it under Bendis.

Luke Cage would be the muscle.

So it'd be Cage, Blue Marvel, Black Panther, Storm, bring back Maxam. Add in Misty Knight for lulz.

Who am I missing? Goliath, I think Quantum was black too.

Originally posted by dmills
He's kinda hard to place in a primary Avengers squad. They have brains (Stark/Pym) and they have plenty of muscle. The academy could use a heavyweight like him in the role of teacher/mentor. I could see Hickman using him on the New Avengers.

I can see him on any the avengers team, you never have too much muscle!!

Originally posted by dmills
So it'd be Cage, Blue Marvel, Black Panther, Storm, bring back Maxam. Add in Misty Knight for lulz.

Who am I missing? Goliath, I think Quantum was black too.

There's already a team called Dark Avengers. 😈

Originally posted by dmills
So it'd be Cage, Blue Marvel, Black Panther, Storm, bring back Maxam. Add in Misty Knight for lulz.

Who am I missing? Goliath, I think Quantum was black too.

Originally posted by dmills
He's kinda hard to place in a primary Avengers squad. They have brains (Stark/Pym) and they have plenty of muscle. The academy could use a heavyweight like him in the role of teacher/mentor. I could see Hickman using him on the New Avengers.

Nah.. I gotz a better idea. He should be the top agent for S.W.O.R.D.
First line of defense against extraterrestrials.. From there he can call Avengers, X-Men, Alpha Flight, SHIELD, etc. etc. He does have some kinda moon base doesn't he? He would be the first big gun when E.T. comes a knockin.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift

Luke Cage would be the muscle.

I don't care what Celey thinks, Blue Marvel 8/10.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Nah.. I gotz a better idea. He should be the top agent for S.W.O.R.D.
First line of defense against extraterrestrials.. From there he can call Avengers, X-Men, Alpha Flight, SHIELD, etc. etc. He does have some kinda moon base doesn't he? He would be the first big gun when E.T. comes a knockin.

I like it. But unfortunately if we ever want to see him featured it'll have to be in a book that sales but sucks as opposed to a good book that doesn't sale. Hell of an idea though.

I'm going to read the. S.W.O.R.D mini run tonight along with Adam's mini. Both are more interesting then anything going on at Marvel at the moment.

On another note, what do you make of this new Nova thing celey?

Monica Rambaeu/Rembau would be a good energy manipulator for the team.

Originally posted by dmills
I like it. But unfortunately if we ever want to see him featured it'll have to be in a book that sales but sucks as opposed to a good book that doesn't sale. Hell of an idea though.

I'm going to read the. S.W.O.R.D mini run tonight along with Adam's mini. Both are more interesting then anything going on at Marvel at the moment.

On another note, what do you make of this new Nova thing celey?

as in the reboot? u talkin bout his new look?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
as in the reboot? u talkin bout his new look?

Ya. They really seem to be dragging their feet with the details.

They gotta bring back Triathlon. Bendis would LOVE writing him!

Originally posted by Blight
They gotta bring back Triathlon. Bendis would LOVE writing him!

That's another one. Also kid Power man if he counts as black. And what's the guy who's the leader of the Heavy Hitters?

The team can be called The Brotha Brigade 😱

Originally posted by dmills
That's another one. Also kid Power man if he counts as black. And what's the guy who's the leader of the Heavy Hitters?

Rhino could be their token white guy.