the illuminati jettisoned hulk cause they couldn't cure him and intended for him to live on some peaceful planet where he couldn't hurt anyone. that's it. ironically, they worsened the situation and accidentally justified hulk's rampage
doomsday on the other hand was just some assh0le who tried to kill everything that smelled of kryptonian, with no ties to any being in the universe, AND seemingly devoid of true sapience to even entertain the idea of talking him down.
Originally posted by Zack Fairof the two, which one is more applicable for bfr?
Its stupid anyway you look like it, but he is right in that WWH would have ended right there if they simply BFRed him. Same way we wouldn't have a DOS. PIS at its best.
Originally posted by psycho gundamDefinitely Doomsday.
the illuminati jettisoned hulk cause they couldn't cure him and intended for him to live on some peaceful planet where he couldn't hurt anyone. that's it. ironically, they worsened the situation and accidentally justified hulk's rampagedoomsday on the other hand was just some assh0le who tried to kill everything that smelled of kryptonian, with no ties to any being in the universe, AND seemingly devoid of true sapience to even entertain the idea of talking him down. of the two, which one is more applicable for bfr?
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i see nothing inherently wrong with it. it was a simple premise and simple depiction of what everyone thought would happen: "what's going to happen when the hulk comes back?" well, he was pretty phuckin' mad so he smashed. anyone who wanted shakespeare-esqe storytelling from a revenge arc is bugginpak was addressing almost everything and everyone in the entire history of the hulk comic that affected his life, and at the same time he was ending that chapter and making a a new one.
however, compared to AvX it is julius caesar
Originally posted by SamZED
It's not that people hate him. If you look through the posts youll notice that most people say he loses only via BFR, they don't believe that every team can actually hurt him. But there is no logical reason outside of PIS why Hulk wouldn't lose to team 4 every single time. It's perfectly in character for Raven to dump powerful foes in other dimensions. Don't even wanna start on what she could do to him CIS off.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I'd agree Hulk definitely could grow a LOT stronger, but then IMO we're not talking about WWH anymore. Where do we draw the line between WWH and WBH?
Originally posted by The SorrowNo offense Pillar and it's not an attack on you but this post is a view shared by half the people that post in his threads and causes half the problems imo. If said person can't differentiate between his more recent incarnations they should really read more of Greg Paks run besides WWH and HOTM before debating in Hulk threads.
I know the difference between the two versions we've seen. That much is obvious. My point is that when people say WWH can get stronger than Superman, for example....well based on WWH's feats, this is a silly statement. Then people will say WWH can get stronger...well IMO that's no longer WWH we're talking about.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I know the difference between the two versions we've seen. That much is obvious. My point is that when people say WWH can get stronger than Superman, for example....well based on WWH's feats, this is a silly statement. Then people will say WWH can get stronger...well IMO that's no longer WWH we're talking about.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, have asked the mods for a ruling on it, hopefully this will all be settled soon.
Per Galan in the PG Champion thread
Originally posted by Galan007
when someone specifies WWH, i take that as them saying "WWH as he was portrayed during the WWH saga/event." if feats outside of that arc were intended, i'd think the thread starter would have said: "HOTM hulk", or w/e. personally, i don't like to extrapolate on the thread starter's verbiage-- i take it literally until he/she states otherwise. i remember gs making the same argument as you several years back, for the phoenix. even though the thread specified "dark phoenix", he claimed that ALL of her feats (inc. WPOTC) should be applicable, because, hey, it's the same phoenix force, after all!11!!!1! never understood that.
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Couldn't agree more. There are different versions, and they should be kept separate.
Otherwise we get into using OWAW Superman for all of Superman's threads (which was a state of mind that should be easier for him to switch to than Green Scar to WWH or WWH to WBH), Fernus for J'onn, Warrior Madess Thor, etc. etc.
They're all separate versions in separate (specific and limited) arcs and should be treated as such. Anything else is stupid.
Originally posted by Cogito
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Couldn't agree more. There are different versions, and they should be kept separate.
Otherwise we get into using OWAW Superman for all of Superman's threads (which was a state of mind that should be easier for him to switch to than Green Scar to WWH or WWH to WBH), Fernus for J'onn, Warrior Madess Thor, etc. etc.
They're all separate versions in separate (specific and limited) arcs and should be treated as such. Anything else is stupid.
Eh, this issue can be solved pretty easily.
Seems to me that most people who use "WWH" are indeed referring to Green Scar's power levels as he showed in that event. WWH early on became the unofficial moniker for that Hulk, even though, technically, we should be calling him Green Scar or perhaps Pak's Love Child.
WBH generally, as far as this forum intends it, to refer to when Hulk actually broke a world with She-Hulk during HotM. Really, all someone has to do is ask for clarification from the OP in any case.