Originally posted by Silent Master
Using your logic, the local karate forms champion is more skilled than Floyd Mayweather jr. after all, his moves look fancier than Floyd's.
No, it's how you beat someone and not who you beat nor not how you look when doing forms. One must show their skill against an opponent or threat of some kind.
Originally posted by iceman24567He was shown to be, I don't think it was stated.
When was it ever stated in the movie that Ozy was a master martial artist?
Shown>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stated anyway.
Originally posted by Silent Master
He's basing skill on what he thinks looks cooler, rather than effectiveness.
Actually it's more scientific than that. It's about the technique, speed, reflexes, etc. It's not how flashy or how cooler one looks.
Ozy in both without much difficulty.
Originally posted by Silent Master
It's fun watching him dismiss Cap's wins because of his stats, then turn around and claim that Ozy is faster and just as strong as Cap.Using his logic, shouldn't we dismiss Ozy wins?
Originally posted by TheGodKillerOh really
He did a similar thing in another thread , where he claimed that mathematical theories were not applicable to comics , and in the very next sentence used math to justify his argument .
2. I never claimed anything similar to this as it is through logic, science, and math that determines how great each feat is. Without it I can say that thrashing a tank = knocking someone in orbit since both seems impressive to me or that destroying a planet with a few punches = moving a planet at great speeds. It would all be subjective with no actual debate.
Misunderstanding and rearranging one's words doesn't do anyone any good.
Go and find the post where I stated any such things and I will show you a misunderstander and misinterpreter.
Originally posted by Lord_Talron
^well then it was never stated or shown that ozy is peak physical as far as i remember. dont think he has much of a chance then
Displayed much greater skill in his techniques of fighting than Cap did (Cap received no training whatsoever).
Originally posted by h1a8
Oh really
Why tell lies
1. I never once used the term Mathematical Theories. You should start quoting a person to prevent saying false things.2. I never claimed anything similar to this as it is through logic, science, and math that determines how great each feat is. Without it I can say that thrashing a tank = knocking someone in orbit since both seems impressive to me or that destroying a planet with a few punches = moving a planet at great speeds. It would all be subjective with no actual debate.
Misunderstanding and rearranging one's words doesn't do anyone any good.
Go and find the post where I stated any such things and I will show you a misunderstander and misinterpreter.
Originally posted by h1a8
[QUOTE=13937817]Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The IG does have infinite power , only its infinity isn't the highest level of infinity , it is second to that of TOAA . When it comes to infinite power , Marvel has established levels of infinity , and this is based on an actual mathematical study done by the late Georg Cantor , which Zopzop provided a long time back in the Lucifer VS Thanos(w/ IG) thread .As far as the IG being only universal goes , ample evidence was provided by MrMaster in that very same thread(Lucifer VS Thanos), which revealed that only does the IG have a trans-multiversal scale of power , it is quite possibly omniversal as well .
As far as Dr.Strange goes , he only stalemated individual gems , and he essentially needed every last artifact(and most of these artifacts are powered by high level Elder Gods, beings considerably above skyfathers like Odin) he possessed to accomplish such a feat .
Lastly, if showings contradict what is said then we ignore what is said and go by what is shown. The IG never showed infinite power. For example, with infinite force I can touch something and instantly disintegrate it. If I touch something and it just breaks to pieces then this is not infinite force but a finite force. [/QUOTE]
Originally posted by Lord_Talron
lol@ thinking that catching a bullet requires strength rather than technique. until you're at a level where you are bullet proof/resistant, it has almost nothing to do with strength. it is purely reaction time + skill
Either way it shows Ozy superiority over Cap (skill or strength)
With that said, change in momentum over time equals force. Stopping a bullet with the hand is to change it's momentum, which requires a good deal of force (along with speed and technique)
Originally posted by TheGodKiller[/B][/QUOTE]
I don't need your input on how to interpret or understand someone's words , thank you very much .
However I will show your post which I was referring to and I'll let the onlookers decide what this post of yours implies :[B]Math and the nature of the universe are two different things. For example, with math Zenos' paradox still hold true.
Lastly, if showings contradict what is said then we ignore what is said and go by what is shown. The IG never showed infinite power. For example, with infinite force I can touch something and instantly disintegrate it. If I touch something and it just breaks to pieces then this is not infinite force but a finite force.
Now I will show you a misunderstander.
My statement was being applied to 'infinity'. The nature of the universe's infinity isn't the same as the mathematical interpretation. Otherwise we wouldn't have problems with Zeno's paradoxes. I'll explain later, got to go.