Ozymandias vs Captain America

Originally posted by h1a8

Now I will show you a misunderstander.

Originally posted by h1a8

My statement was being applied to 'infinity'. The nature of the universe's infinity isn't the same as the mathematical interpretation. Otherwise we wouldn't have problems with Zeno's paradoxes. I'll explain later, got to go.

Last I checked h1a8 wasn't an expert in terminal ballistics, so I see no reason to assume his claim in regards to the strength needed to stop a bullet in accurate.

it doesnt matter the strength required to stop a bullet because if he tried to simply stop it it would go thru his hand <_<

I'm assuming Ozy had Kevlar or armored gloves?

Originally posted by ctsketch
I'm assuming Ozy had Kevlar or armored gloves?

I remember his hands bleeding, so I don't think so...

Originally posted by h1a8
Either way it shows Ozy superiority over Cap (skill or strength)

With that said, change in momentum over time equals force. Stopping a bullet with the hand is to change it's momentum, which requires a good deal of force (along with speed and technique)

No.

No.

No.

It's not about force at all

-Your local engineer and physics teacher

Originally posted by h1a8
He was shown to be, I don't think it was stated.

Shown>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stated anyway.

Actually it's more scientific than that. It's about the technique, speed, reflexes, etc. It's not how flashy or how cooler one looks.

Ozy in both without much difficulty.

this would be a much better fight comic book ozy vs movie cap. much more would come to bear for ozy

Originally posted by iceman24567
Nah he didn't show any martial arts mastery stop lying. Fancy moves doesn't equate to skill. Batman showed no fancy moves and he was trained by one of the oldest assassin sects in the world. Spiderman was able to do kicks and flips that only the best martial artist could dream about but he wasn't a master not even close. So it seems you are basing Ozys skills solely on how flashy it looked which is fail. You should leave and never return 😐

According to h1a8's logic, the 14 year old black belt at the local Mcdojo is more skilled than most Olympic wrestlers. after all, his sparring matches look much flashier than their matches.

^as far as i can tell, you are misrepresenting the spirit of his argument. hes not talking about how flashy they are but that looking at the moves someone uses you can tell how good they are

Cap tore through his opponents faster than Ozy did and yet according to h1a8, Ozy is faster and just as strong.

Sounds to me like Cap's style was more effective. yet he's giving Ozy the skill edge because Ozy's style looked more impressive to him, IOW, he's basing it on looks rather than results.

Originally posted by cdtm
I remember his hands bleeding, so I don't think so...

If it's a thin weave of kevlar then that is possible but no bare human hand is gonna stop a bullet, technique or not.

Cap vs Ozy would be a good fight IMO. Strength goes to Cap, Speed goes to Ozy. Skill goes to Ozy and combat effectiveness goes to Cap (due to durability, healing factor, hitting power, etc.).

Don't see a stomp in either part and twould be a good fight to watch, IMO.

I'll give the slight edge to Ozy 6/10 without the shield while cap edges him off 7/10 with the shield IMO.

There's a movie vs forum.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=102