Superman vs Reed Richards (Chess)

Originally posted by Mindset
You're dense.

lol this coming from a guy who's one "tier" above carver on this site. You're the one saying Reed has this all powerful mind, I'm pointing out he's not the best strategist. Reed is a CREATIVE genius. On the level of a Tesla, or an Einstein, but of course taken to ridiculous extremes. Chess at the level he'd be playing Superman at would be less of a creative game and more of a battle of pure logic and strategy.

Of course, I'll be waiting for your plebian response of "you're an idiot" or "you're dense". Ad hominem attacks are the last resort of people with no good arguments like yourself.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
This would be like saying that since I suck at chess, I'd be terrible at Starcraft, too.

Faulty analogy, since I'm not saying he's sucks at chess. I'm pointing out he's not flawless in terms of strategy in response to people saying he would always have perfect strategy. A more accurate analogy would be someone claiming he's good at all games, and then someone else pointing out a game he has had trouble with in the past.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
lol this coming from a guy who's one "tier" above carver on this site. You're the one saying Reed has this all powerful mind, I'm pointing out he's not the best strategist. Reed is a CREATIVE genius. On the level of a Tesla, or an Einstein, but of course taken to ridiculous extremes. Chess at the level he'd be playing Superman at would be less of a creative game and more of a battle of pure logic and strategy.

Of course, I'll be waiting for your plebian response of "you're an idiot" or "you're dense". Ad hominem attacks are the last resort of people with no good arguments like yourself.

Hence, you being dense.

Originally posted by janus77
Doesn't matter how fast Superman thinks. Deep Blue processes data far faster than a human being yet it still lost the first match-up against Kasparov.

And most computer chess games are beatable, so processing speed alone isn't going to win it for Superman.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Faulty analogy, since I'm not saying he's sucks at chess. I'm pointing out he's not flawless in terms of strategy in response to people saying he would always have perfect strategy. A more accurate analogy would be someone claiming he's good at all games, and then someone else pointing out a game he has had trouble with in the past.

But the point that I think ppl are trying to make is that one has nothing to do with another.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Chess at the level he'd be playing Superman at would be less of a creative game and more of a battle of pure logic and strategy.

Reed Richards stomp every version of Superman when they are involve in a contest where the brain is the primary tool.

Reed reaches over the table and slams Superman's head off it repeatedly.

Superman will lose so many times and when he wins and tries to celebrate, the chess pieces changes it's properties to kryptonite and reveal it's his 1/10000 chance of winning is the trigger to reveal this trap.

Originally posted by Diesldude
what are you talking about? Deep Blue beat kasparov once and tied twice to lose the match in 96 and then beat him in 97. And as the pc's became more powerful, deep fritz crushed Kramnik in 2006.

We play chess against computers with multi-cores and ghz of processing speed, yet we still beat them.

IF processing power was all that mattered, Kasparov would never have won (nor tied!) a single game and we would never beat computer chess games either.

Anyway, back on-topic. Reed can "expand" his brain to allow him to do all sorts of computations at even faster and more powerful levels. This plus his natural genius should easily trump Superman.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Reed reaches over the table and slams Superman's head off it repeatedly.

facepalm

Trying to equate Reed Richards' brain to that of a normal human's is phucking dumb.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Okay?

The only advantage Superman has is his ability to process information faster, which isn't all that great considering chess has a very finite number of moves and countermoves...all of which Reed is very aware of to begin with.

Superman can hope to draw with Reed if both are at their best.

Well, processing power amounts to a lot when it comes to chess software...

Faster processor = stronger gameplay from the same software.

No one's saying Superman is smarter than Reed, but would anyone call Deep Blue, or any given computer smater than the masters they beat or draw with?

They're just glorified number crunchers.. That's all it takes to beat the best chess players in the world, and Supes can outperform any computer.

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, processing power amounts to a lot when it comes to chess software...

Faster processor = stronger gameplay from the same software.

No one's saying Superman is smarter than Reed, but would anyone call Deep Blue, or any given computer smater than the masters they beat or draw with?

They're just glorified number crunchers.. That's all it takes to beat the best chess players in the world, and Supes can outperform any computer.

The problem with this analogy is the fact that Reed outperforms computers on a daily basis through virtue of his feats.

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, processing power amounts to a lot when it comes to chess software...

Faster processor = stronger gameplay from the same software.

No one's saying Superman is smarter than Reed, but would anyone call Deep Blue, or any given computer smater than the masters they beat or draw with?

They're just glorified number crunchers.. That's all it takes to beat the best chess players in the world, and Supes can outperform any computer.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
As well as what Galan just said being true, superman's speed of thinking doesn't matter. There's no time limit in between moves, so Reed can take as long as he wants.

That would play in Superman's favor, too. It's not like he can't study (at super speeds) all the moves available to him. lol at Reed beating Superman easily.

Originally posted by Mindset
What did Galan say?

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, processing power amounts to a lot when it comes to chess software...

Faster processor = stronger gameplay from the same software.

No one's saying Superman is smarter than Reed, but would anyone call Deep Blue, or any given computer smater than the masters they beat or draw with?

They're just glorified number crunchers.. That's all it takes to beat the best chess players in the world, and Supes can outperform any computer.

Originally posted by Golgo13
That would play in Superman's favor, too. It's not like he can't study (at super speeds) all the moves available to him. lol at Reed beating Superman easily.