Cell vs Broly

The Gohan that fought Broly was still notceably superior to Cell. He was stalemating Dabura who was supposedly more powerful than Perfect cell according to Goku and Vegeta. And Broly was having fun using Gohan as a stress reliever.

Originally posted by BloodRain
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Who cares, it royally screwed him over. Actually, how can being on the sun be more hazardous to him than a DB energy attack?

The Gohan that fought Broly was still notceably superior to Cell. He was stalemating Dabura who was supposedly more powerful than Perfect cell according to Goku and Vegeta. And Broly was having fun using Gohan as a stress reliever.

Great point. I had forgotten about Dabura.

I wouldn't call it a stalemate when Gohan was struggling with Dabura during most of the fight, especially when Dabura easily predicted some of Gohan's moves before he even made them, which made Gohan's power decrease and lack of training as obvious as ever.

Goku was "struggling" with Vegeta when they first fought.

Vegeta was "struggling" with 1st Form Freiza.

#17 was "struggling" with Piccolo.

1st Form Cell was "struggling" with #16.

Goku was "struggling" with Pikkon.

Stalemates often include struggling. Dabura was not overly above Gohan like Broly seemed to be and Dabura was stated to be Cell's superior.

Looks to me like Perfect Cell < Dabura < Broly

Originally posted by Damborgson
The Gohan that fought Broly was still notceably superior to Cell. He was stalemating Dabura who was supposedly more powerful than Perfect cell according to Goku and Vegeta. And Broly was having fun using Gohan as a stress reliever.

Gohan was panting at the end of their fight, where Dabura was perfectly fine, and is several times stated to be weaker than his teen self.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Probably because they are 2 entirely different things/sources of energy? not to mention its a FKN star.

Yeah, but whats the surface of a star compared to planet busting blasts?

If the sun hit a planet it would probably bust it too

Yes but that has nothing to do with a stationary star.

Ok then if Earth hit the sun... Same deal.

These DBZ guys seem to have shitty heat durability. Broly and Cooler were killed by the sun. Broly was burned by lava. Goku panicked when Broly's blast set his clothes on fire. Goku dodged lava while fighting Frieza.

Also has nothing to do with the Earth. Ah the whole Sun heat thing is stupid. On one hand being on the Sun kills Cooler, on the other we have Frieza surviving the heat and force (if barely) of an exploding planet.

Its a sad day when fire kills DB characters.

So who wins here?

Nvm i just went back and looked at your post saying Cell would win Round 2

Originally posted by BloodRain

Yeah, but whats the surface of a star compared to planet busting blasts?

Really? The sun would easily destroy the planet.

It'd roast the planet into a rock, but not destroy it. The only thing that you get from the surface of the sun in 5000K heat, which would be like the temp of a planet exploding (core temp+) minus the actual force of the explosion.

Don't remember the instance all too well but since you only keep talking about the surface...Broly died by simply coming in contact with the sun's surface? Because if he did manage to dig into the sun its a whole different ballpark

Still DBZ Ki Blasts are not balls of heat. Just because Broly tanks concussive energy attacks doesn't mean he can tank heat.

He had to use a barrier when he was in the lava

Broly was pushed from one end of the sun and out the other side by three Ki blasts, and only died because the wound he received as a child opened up.

Wow what a bad feat.

So he did get through the core of the sun and lived to get out the other side. Thats an amazing feat of endurance/durability even if it did kill him. Also true juggerman. Which is why I mentioned earlier they are 2 different things.

Reminds me to DL the movies. Got the entire z saga but always forget about dem movies.

He went through the Sun?

Seriously, he was shot /through/ the Sun?

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Originally posted by BloodRain
Goku said that Dabura's probably at Cell's powerlevel, and that if he was stronger he would have been a strong opponent back then. Comparable to Cell, but definitely weaker.

Gohan was panting at the end of their fight, where Dabura was perfectly fine, and is several times stated to be weaker than his teen self.

He said that they were about the same. Then later in the fight when Vegeta was getting pissed Goku said Dabura was stronger than he'd thought. Never was it implied that he was weaker than cell, and I think that Toriyama's purpose was to show just how different the scale in power was between a guy like perfect cell and a guy like fat buu was.

Yeah no doubt he was weaker, but to be able to drop from the point where you can beat the crap out of someone no problem to being tied with them is pretty huge.

Originally posted by BloodRain
He went through the Sun?

Seriously, he was shot /through/ the Sun?

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Yeah Bro. From a family kamehameha lol.