PG Thor vs PG Champion

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Originally posted by CosmicComet
You see the light yellow in front of Thanos?

THAT is where the blast can be touching him. The sparks around can be the splash reaching around him.

Thanos' chest doesn't bulge that far out. Just look at his shoulder and the splashing.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
His shields are always drawn and shown explicitly.

This is not one of those cases. No shield.

Reread Infinity Abyss. They weren't drawn there.

PG Thor didn't break Thanos' shielding so that it wouldn't function anymore throughout the arc. And Thanos isn't stupid enough to forget to use his shields.

Originally posted by Galan007
I can see both sides of the argument.

To me, it does look like the blast begins to dissipate before hitting Thanos-- on the other hand, there was no mention of a shield being in place.

Same here.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It's called artistic depiction.. He seems to have a thing for a blasts radiating all around the body. Even in the scan you show.. there is a big energy splash around odin when it hits him. In the Thanos case.. it was just from a different angle. Point is, I can't think of ONE.. NOT ONE incident where Thanos shields haven't been drawn or even alluded to... and where it talks about them breaking. All the times it has been broken or failing.. Omega, Galactus, Champion, Thor etc etc.. it's either shown being broken or talked about being broken. Yet in this case, it's never even mentioned as having one.. let one mentioned when it was broken. Yet if it wasn't broken. why didn't he continue to use it.. and if he did and it was broken.. why again wasn't it mentioned. I know why.. because no shield existed.

Well the artistic depiction was completely forgotten here then.

where and arguably less impressive attack sent him reeling. And it didn't warp around him like it did with the first attack. And it never happened again. The difference is seen in that same scan where Thanos' and Surfers' attacks engulf Odin. I think it's safe to say there was some sort of shielding used. But of course I'm not dismissing the other side of the argument. I wouldn't care of there wasn't shielding used, it's just something I noticed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, Thanos took Thor on as a real threat. He toyed with Champion and then knew exactly when to teleport away. He played him for the fool he was and even stated all the elders were giant morons at the end. Thor was a force with the power gem Champion was just a fool.

I'm forced to agree with this 😄

I don't really see a shield. But the fact that people are split on it, shows how ambiguous and subjective the art is. This could mean two things: (1) the writer and artist never intended there to be a shield; or (2) if the writer and artist did intend there to be a shield, they did a terrible job at depicting it.

Originally posted by ODG
Thanos' chest doesn't bulge that far out. Just look at his shoulder and the splashing. Reread Infinity Abyss. They weren't drawn there.

PG Thor didn't break Thanos' shielding so that it wouldn't function anymore throughout the arc. And Thanos isn't stupid enough to forget to use his shields.

haha you're still trying to pedal the shield theory. Why didn't he continue to use the shields as they weren't shown to break?

In Infinity Abyss the shields were still mentioned and stood up to a greater blast than what Odin did.

I challenge you ODG to show ANY mention, hint, or drawing of a shield

Originally posted by ODG
Thanos' chest doesn't bulge that far out. Just look at his shoulder and the splashing. Reread Infinity Abyss. They weren't drawn there.

PG Thor didn't break Thanos' shielding so that it wouldn't function anymore throughout the arc. And Thanos isn't stupid enough to forget to use his shields.

When they aren't drawn... I.e. omega they are ALLUDED TO NUMEROUS TIMES... They are even mentioned to be failing.. Nothing of the sort happened here. No mention of them.. no drawing them.. no mentioning them breaking = no go

Originally posted by vince_slice
I don't really see a shield. But the fact that people are split on it, shows how ambiguous and subjective the art is. This could mean two things: (1) the writer and artist never intended there to be a shield; or (2) if the writer and artist did intend there to be a shield, they did a terrible job at depicting it.

/shrug

Originally posted by Nihilist
haha you're still trying to pedal the shield theory. Why didn't he continue to use the shields as they weren't shown to break?

In Infinity Abyss the shields were still mentioned and stood up to a greater blast than what Odin did.

I challenge you ODG to show ANY mention, hint, or drawing of a shield

Pretty sure they did break, which is why Thanos started getting tossed all over the place, which happens when his shields break, e.g., PG Thor.

They weren't drawn at all is the point.

Look at Thanos' shoulder, where his chest should be, and how far out the blast splashes. That's your mention, hint or drawing. Thanos' shielding unit wasn't destroyed by PG Thor. Thanos isn't stupid enough to run into battle against a Skyfather without his shields when he used them quickly enough against a lesser foe in PG Thor not two issues prior.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
When they aren't drawn... I.e. omega they are ALLUDED TO NUMEROUS TIMES... They are even mentioned to be failing.. Nothing of the sort happened here. No mention of them.. no drawing them.. no mentioning them breaking = no go
Why weren't they drawn in Infinity Abyss? Begging the question proves what? The shielding effect is there and it's rather plain to see unless you think Thanos' chest bulges out that far. Hint: it doesn't. Splendid effort though, assassinating Thanos' character by trying to act like his shielding unit was destroyed by PG Thor, or Thanos is just an idiot and conveniently runs into battle without shields, or arguing that Thanos' possesses 33DDD breasts.

he also used a force block again, but odin casually shattered that, too

So proof then ODG simply speculation.

I wouldn't mind PR even put you right on the matter and declared no shield before.

Originally posted by Nihilist
So proof then ODG simply speculation.

I wouldn't mind PR even put you right on the matter and declared no shield before.

Funny, because the shielding splashing effect wasn't pointed out before.

But I like your motivation here to argue otherwise. Because apparently, Thanos not using shielding acts as some sort of security blanket to excuse (in some menial way) the outclassing that Odin subjected Thanos to here. Like, somehow, Thanos' handicapping himself (ignorantly or purposefully) saves some of his dignity.

It wouldn't have made a difference. PG Thor, a far lesser opponent than Odin, shattered Thanos' shields easily. Odin also would have anyway (and frankly did). So this security blanket argument doesn't even serve a purpose. Why do you even care whether Thanos used his shields or not?

Except to unintentionally insinuate that a) Thanos is an idiot for not using his most basic defense, i.e., shields, even when he remembers to resort to experimental force block tech, or b) Thanos' shielding unit was destroyed by PG Thor, and c) Thanos sometimes possesses 33DDD t1tties.

This argument is rather needless, to say the least. Even when you aggrandize him, you twist and distort the very character. Reminds me of the arguments that Wolverine's brain never gets explicitly penetrated and him being shot in the eyesocket and being knocked out senseless for an entire comic was just the bullet causing concussive damage and bouncing off. Which is ironic coming from Wolverine fanboys who argue that he can't get knocked out by less than Hulk-level punches.

If you don't have anything other than hope and specation just stfu instead of waisting my time.

The whole using shields because he faced a powerful opponent fails as he never used one against Tyrant, Maker, Afro Magus with the soul gem or Walker the Death God.

He also has more than one shield, as evidenced in the Omega fiasco.

Originally posted by Nihilist
The whole using shields because he faced a powerful opponent fails as he never used one against Tyrant, Maker, Afro Magus with the soul gem or Walker the Death God.
all those guys sort of whipped his ass. vs tyrant thanos may have been amped

^ Thanos desperately resorted to using DP Tyrant's own power orbs against him. Maker one-shotted him and Thanos had to resort to telepathically attacking her fragile mortal mind the second time around. Thanos explicitly drew upon his ships' power against Walker and requested help from Captain Marvel (they even held hands~~~ aww~~~!) and Thor. What Nihilist is trying to say though is that Thanos is a silly rabbit who makes use of all sorts of tactics, outside amps, requests assistance and utilizes experimental tech, but never decided to use one of his most basic defenses, e.g., his shields. Which of course, we should have seen... even though they've been invisible before.

Originally posted by Nihilist
If you don't have anything other than hope and specation just stfu instead of waisting my time.

The whole using shields because he faced a powerful opponent fails as he never used one against Tyrant, Maker, Afro Magus with the soul gem or Walker the Death God.

Sorry I deconstructed your underlying intentions and revealed the futility of your entire argument. Cuts deep, I'm sure.

I get it, you're trying to argue that Thanos hardly ever uses his shields against superior opponents. Some form of CIS? Maybe. And you're not unwittingly assassinating Thanos' character right now. The "Thanos-possesses-33DDD-t1tties" argument was compelling though. I still don't have a rebuttal for that.

Originally posted by ODG
Pretty sure they did break, which is why Thanos started getting tossed all over the place, which happens when his shields break, e.g., PG Thor.

They weren't drawn at all is the point.

Look at Thanos' shoulder, where his chest should be, and how far out the blast splashes. That's your mention, hint or drawing. Thanos' shielding unit wasn't destroyed by PG Thor. Thanos isn't stupid enough to run into battle against a Skyfather without his shields when he used them quickly enough against a lesser foe in PG Thor not two issues prior. Why weren't they drawn in Infinity Abyss? Begging the question proves what? The shielding effect is there and it's rather plain to see unless you think Thanos' chest bulges out that far. Hint: it doesn't. Splendid effort though, assassinating Thanos' character by trying to act like his shielding unit was destroyed by PG Thor, or Thanos is just an idiot and conveniently runs into battle without shields, or arguing that Thanos' possesses 33DDD breasts.

Simple questions then... In the comic in question that you reference being a shield that wasn't drawn.

1. Was the shield metioned in said arc?
2. Was the shield mentioned to be broken or breaking?
3. In the Odin fight.. was there a single word about a shield being used?
4. Was there a single mention of a shield breaking?

Seems pretty cut and dry to me. Can you name me ONE.. just ONE instance in Thanos' entire history.. where a shield is invisible and also not mentioned as being there or breaking? Doesn't exist, because when there IS a shield it's either DRAWN so it's clear... if not drawn and invisible it's has IN EVERY INSTANCE been mentiioned as benig there.. Wanna know why.. well pretty simple really.. since you can't see one.. the writer wants the reader to know it's here. NONE of those things happened here. no amount of reaching changes that buddy.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
all those guys sort of whipped his ass. vs tyrant thanos may have been amped
more bullshit.

Maker cheap shotted him and then got beat.

Afro Magus faced the weakest version of Thanos and only just won.

The orb did nothing for durability as it was only energy.

Thanos tanked Walkers blast that floored Genis.

You're post even fails get whipped wasn't even the point and like I said not a single shield used.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Simple questions then... In the comic in question that you reference being a shield that wasn't drawn.

1. Was the shield metioned in said arc?
2. Was the shield mentioned to be broken or breaking?
3. In the Odin fight.. was there a single word about a shield being used?
4. Was there a single mention of a shield breaking?

Seems pretty cut and dry to me. Can you name me ONE.. just ONE instance in Thanos' entire history.. where a shield is invisible and also not mentioned as being there or breaking? Doesn't exist, because when there IS a shield it's either DRAWN so it's clear... if not drawn and invisible it's has IN EVERY INSTANCE been mentiioned as benig there.. Wanna know why.. well pretty simple really.. since you can't see one.. the writer wants the reader to know it's here. NONE of those things happened here. no amount of reaching changes that buddy.

Shield's splashing effect being drawn isn't enough? I get it. You're just using Wolverithmetics at this point, amirite? When Wolverine has a bullet hit his eye and he gets knocked out for an entire issue with what appears to be brain matter coming out of his eye, we need a narration panel saying, "And Wolverine was thus shot in the brain by Scalphunter."

Because, y'know, what's obvious must somehow be spoonfed to us as if we're 10 years old... with mental defect issues and a poor grasp of reading comprehension looking at teh pretty picturez.

Begging irrelevant questions isn't a winning strategy. Nor is assuming that writers must pander to the audience every single time, because you need to convince me that Thanos is such a great comic character, he forgets to use his shielding half the time because, "zomg, we don't see his invisible shields" and sometimes, Thanos lets loose with 33DDD t1tties to tank Odin's blasts!

The only thing you've done ODG is show how desperate and sad you are trying to make stuff up thinking I'm trying to make Thanos somehow superior to Odin, which isn't the case.

The simple issue is he tanked the blast like he did later on walking through the Gungnir blasts.

No proof=no case..end of.