Time-Trapper Vs Phoenix Force

This is pre zero hour version of Time Trapper vs full phoenix force. Which force of nature wins?

Phoenix.

Time Trapper.

Here it was revealed that everything that happened pre crisis took place in the universe trapper created i.e. multiple alternate earths etc.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/517/33929220go3.jpg/

Then there is him going toe to toe with Infinite Man
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/Nsider_Comics/35-1.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/Nsider_Comics/36-1.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/Nsider_Comics/37-1.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/Nsider_Comics/38-1.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/Nsider_Comics/39-1.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Here it was revealed that everything that happened pre crisis took place in the universe trapper created i.e. multiple alternate earths etc.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/517/33929220go3.jpg/

Not quite..

Everything happened in the normal universe. The pocket universe only contained Earth and Krypton, to make sure a Superboy existed after the crisis to inspire the LOSH's formation.

And that was changed anyways, to Lar Gand/Valor becoming the inspiration..

Originally posted by abhilegend
Here it was revealed that everything that happened pre crisis took place in the universe trapper created i.e. multiple alternate earths etc.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/517/33929220go3.jpg/

Then there is him going toe to toe with Infinite Man
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/Nsider_Comics/35-1.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/Nsider_Comics/36-1.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/Nsider_Comics/37-1.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/Nsider_Comics/38-1.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/Nsider_Comics/39-1.jpg

Originally posted by Mindset
Phoenix.

.

Time Trapper.

Phoenix.

Phoenix

Probably Time Trapper.

Creating pocket universes implies a level of power beyond Phoenix.

Classic Phoenix should take this .

AVX Phoenix would probably lose .

I was going to say Trapper, but those scans convinced me otherwise.

Phoenix, easily.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I was going to say Trapper, but those scans convinced me otherwise.

Phoenix, easily.

abhi, stop pimping my favorite characters before you get the whole board against them!

pf

Originally posted by cdtm
Probably Time Trapper.

Creating pocket universes implies a level of power beyond Phoenix.

Really? 😬

The Phoenix Force is the sentient Big Bang, the power behind a proper universe. Hell Lords can shape themselves pocket dimensions.

Can Phoenix survive the entropy rift?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Really? 😬

The Phoenix Force is the sentient Big Bang, the power behind a proper universe. Hell Lords can shape themselves pocket dimensions.

Well, it's not just that he made a universe, but how he went about pruning and shaping it. He wanted nothing more than Earth and Krypton, and wanted them to evolve in a very particular way to produce his Pre Crisis Superboy... No mean feat. Full on "God" level reality warping skills there.

Plus, classic TT is an aspect of entropy. I'd say that makes him a nice match for a sentient Big Bang. 😉

But what has the full Phoenix entity actually done? What's it's best feats, and how does it compare with other abstracts?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Can Phoenix survive the entropy rift?

The Force by canon cannot die, it is the sentient Big Bang

both the trigger of reality and its sustenance as the energies of creation and sum of all life force in reality

and its end as the Big Crunch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch

The Force perpetuates this cycle of rebirth and destruction according to Eternity and ensures his existence in each universe

Entropy is nothing to a cosmic constant that controls the creation cycle

The Phoenix has been hurt before, though. And by beings of less magnitude as TT. What is Phoenix going to do to TT?