DCNU Superman vs AvX Thor

Started by carver910 pages
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Then how is that not an advantage?

It is an advantage. You was making it sound as if he was unhittable.

Originally posted by carver9
@Damborgson...

You don't make one bit of since and you probably wasn't reading the comic. We see Gladiator and Cyclops fighting...the next panel it shows Cyclops hugged up with Emma while Namor and Colossus is pounding on Gladiator. Gladiator face was bruised like he was fighting for days. Relook at the fight.

Then it skips again to an entire another scene once they take the camera away from Gladiator son. Majority of the fight took place off panel. This doesn't include Gladiator punching Colossus while having on a fresh outfit then the next time we see Gladiator, his suit is all ripped up. Majority, if not, ALL of that fight took place off panel.

Thor got worked more than once by one Phoenix user whereas they had to gangbang Gladiator. Get over it and move on.

Coming from you the irony is incredible.

For days lol. Stop. He got beat up, and there's nothing more to it. You also have never been in a fight in your life apparently. After enough hits , the face swells up pretty bad. Especially when they are so superior in strength and striking power as are the Phoenix 5. And it usually takes only a few short minutes. Not days.

Yeah the majority of the beat down took place off panel. It was still a beat down, not a fight. The last bit of Gladiator resistance shown was when he attacked Cyclops who was trying to reason as much as possible without having to beat the hell out of him. Then Gladiator tackled him (understandably of course) and the beat down began. There was no struggle in between. At best you could say both attacked him at once so he never had a shot.

also wtf? ALL of the fight took place off panel? What about the stuff on panel in the comic? Calm down lol.

They didn't have to do anything. They chose to beat the crap out of him together. At the end, no one had a mark on them except for Gladiator who was in a coma.

Get over what? You're the one who started spazzing for me agreeing with iceman. If you want someone to move on you do it. It's not hard to see you're trying to convince yourself more than me.

Wasn't trying to say it as them fighting for days foreal, I was using a metaphor. Also, the fight took place off panel. You didn't explain anything that was stated in my post...you are just assuming.

Lol. Mad props to carver though - no matter the participants, he will find a way to big up his fave characters, even if they are nowhere near the thread.

As for the fight, I split it, same as DCnU Supes and normal Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
Wasn't trying to say it as them fighting for days foreal, I was using a metaphor. Also, the fight took place off panel. You didn't explain anything that was stated in my post...you are just assuming.

Ok so we're just doing this thing where no matter what I say you'll ignore it and think whatever you want right? k.

concession accepted buddy.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Ok so we're just doing this thing where no matter what I say you'll ignore it and think whatever you want right? k.

concession accepted buddy.

No concession at all since you are wrong. Didn't look like Emma was going all out on Thor either since she smiled through the beat down and made jokes as well.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman has also ran 25000 mph and he has also read every medical book that was in a particular library in 5 minutes. I can't picture Thor doing any of that, even outside of AvX but I also don't consider Superman unhittable.

I believe he read all the medical books in about 1 minute. 5 minutes was the time it took for the training and operation.

As for supes being unhittable, he can just about be if he chooses too. And he is just under flash in speed

Originally posted by carver9
No concession at all since you are wrong. Didn't look like Emma was going all out on Thor either since she smiled through the beat down and made jokes as well.

Well you can't prove anything so I guess I'm not.

Hulk smiled while fighting Betty in the Dark dimension. He wasn't holding back though.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. Mad props to carver though - no matter the participants, he will find a way to big up his fave characters, even if they are nowhere near the thread.

As for the fight, I split it, same as DCnU Supes and normal Thor.

So you would give DCNU Supes a split against normal Thor?

Originally posted by carver9
So you would give DCNU Supes a split against normal Thor?

Yah. I don't think Thor is THAT weakened, and I guess I am basing my feeling on DCnU Superman on just that - a feeling. He has a definite speed advantage over Thor, but whether he has the strength to make it count? That is why I give a split.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Well you can't prove anything so I guess I'm not.

Hulk smiled while fighting Betty in the Dark dimension. He wasn't holding back though.

If Emma would've kept pounding on Thor, do you think he would have lived through it? What if all the Avengers was koed when Namor had Thor limp body in his hands and Namor decided to put all of his attention towards Thor without any outside interference. Would Thor have died if Namor kept pounding on his limp body? Yes or no.?

....He didn't knock Thor out. We've been over this lol. He was not limp - his arms and legs weren't limp. He was gripping Mjolnir, so not limp. His head was up - so not limp.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah. I don't think Thor is THAT weakened, and I guess I am basing my feeling on DCnU Superman on just that - a feeling. He has a definite speed advantage over Thor, but whether he has the strength to make it count? That is why I give a split.

You can't be serious. Nova Prime has a speed advantage over Thor and based on strength fts, Nova is stronger than reboot Supes. Would you give Nova the majority as well? What about Surfer, Gladiator, Hyperion...all of whom have fts far superior to DCNU Supes? Let me know.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
....He didn't knock Thor out. We've been over this lol. He was not limp - his arms and legs weren't limp. He was gripping Mjolnir, so not limp. His head was up - so not limp.

Answer the Emma question then. Or how about when Cyclops koed him. What if Cyke decided to walk over and pound on Thor...would he die?

Originally posted by carver9
You can't be serious. Nova Prime has a speed advantage over Thor and based ok strength fts, Nova is stronger than reboot Supes. Would you give Nova the majority as well? What about Surfer, Gladiator, Hyperion...all of whom have fts far superior to DCNU Supes? Let me know.

Like I said, its only a feeling, not based off feats...so...do I think DCnU Superman has the reserves, the tank, to call upon, that the others don't? Sure.

Originally posted by carver9
If Emma would've kept pounding on Thor, do you think he would have lived through it? What if all the Avengers was koed when Namor had Thor limp body in his hands and Namor decided to put all of his attention towards Thor without any outside interference. Would Thor have died if Namor kept pounding on his limp body? Yes or no.?

If Namor and Colossus had kept pounding on Gladiator he'd have lived through it?

Thor wasn't ko'd. He had his head up, his helmet on, and a very tightly grasped Mjolnir in his hands. Namor was just yanking him by the cape.

Originally posted by carver9
If Emma would've kept pounding on Thor, do you think he would have lived through it? What if all the Avengers was koed when Namor had Thor limp body in his hands and Namor decided to put all of his attention towards Thor without any outside interference. Would Thor have died if Namor kept pounding on his limp body? Yes or no.?

So you're asking me, if Emma/Cyclops, who have been shown to be above Thor (by beating him), if they continued beating him when he was beaten....would they beat him into beaten submission with a beating?

Yes, lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Like I said, its only a feeling, not based off feats...so...do I think DCnU Superman has the reserves, the tank, to call upon, that the others don't? Sure.

Lol, what are you basing this off of though? He has been defeating on numerous of occasions and again, he doesn't have the fts equal or NEAR anyone I've mentioned. Are you tipsy tonight Dark? This doesn't sound anything like you. If you would give this version of Superman a split against Thor, pre reboot Superman should be able to slaughter Thor 10/10 with ease.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol, what are you basing this off of though? He has been defeating on numerous of occasions and again, he doesn't have the fts equal or NEAR anyone I've mentioned. Are you tipsy tonight Dark? This doesn't sound anything like you. If you would give this version of Superman a split against Thor, pre reboot Superman should be able to slaughter Thor 10/10 with ease.

I won't say 10/10 with ease....but I think he'd beat him, yes.