DCNU Superman vs AvX Thor

Started by BlackZero30x10 pages
Originally posted by carver9
Sigh, just sigh. Everyone during that instance was injured/fatigue. Not a good testament towards what you are trying to argue.

lulz at that statement. What you just said was basically that Superman and Flash were tired and beaten yet somehow were still moving at similar speeds.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Poorly written is poorly written. Losing is losing. Sometimes the two connect, sometimes they don't.

👆 He was in a coma iirc. And all he got was a glorified beat down. He stopped fighting back after Colossus worked him.

You can't even compare the two. When did Thor get hit on repeatedly by two Phoenix 5 members? Never happened. That was a prolong battle and Thor probably would have died looking at the 90 times he was one shotted during this arc. One Phoenix user knocked him the hell out, imagine what two would have done if they kept pounding on him like they did Gladiator.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
lulz at that statement. What you just said was basically that Superman and Flash were tired and beaten yet somehow were still moving at similar speeds.

Flash picked Superman off of the ground and ran with him. Why are you handing this ft to Superman?

Originally posted by carver9
Flash picked Superman off of the ground and ran with him. Why are you handing this ft to Superman?

yes he picked up a superman that wasn't even looking in the direction of darkside and ran......until he let him go and superman took off flying.

Im in no way saying superman is as fast as flash as that would be very hypocritical of me. All I'm saying is these two instances he was near the speed of what flash was showing in these instances. how is that so hard to comprehend? and you still never answered my question.....

Originally posted by carver9
You can't even compare the two. When did Thor get hit on repeatedly by two Phoenix 5 members? Never happened. That was a prolong battle and Thor probably would have died looking at the 90 times he was one shotted during this arc. One Phoenix user knocked him the hell out, imagine what two would have done if they kept pounding on him like they did Gladiator.

Colossus and Magik lol?

lol @ "prolonged battle" It was a glorified beat down.

It was indeed a single Phoenix user that put glads down also. Namor just came after he was done.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
yes he picked up a superman that wasn't even looking in the direction of darkside and ran......until he let him go and superman took off flying.

Im in no way saying superman is as fast as flash as that would be very hypocritical of me. All I'm saying is these two instances he was near the speed of what flash was showing in these instances. how is that so hard to comprehend? and you still never answered my question.....

Understandable but both fts are unquantifable since we have no recollection on how fast Flash was going during those instances. I also don't believe Darkseid Omegas are anywhere near light speed. Then Darkseid was able to perceive both of them during that instance, someone that doesn't have a single showing of super speed.

What was your question?

Originally posted by Damborgson
Colossus and Magik lol?

lol @ "prolonged battle" It was a glorified beat down.

It was indeed a single Phoenix user that put glads down also. Namor just came after he was done.

90% of that fight took place off panel. Lol...the next time we see Gladiator after his fight against Cyclops, TWO Phoenix users was pounding on him.

Colossus and Magik didnt have a prolong fight against Thor, Glads got pounded on for no telling how long. Like I said, majority of the fight took place off panel but it sure as hell was ucmuch longer than any fight Thor been in and looking at the one shots he has endured, he probably would have died if he was put in Gladiator shoes.

Originally posted by carver9
Understandable but both fts are unquantifable since we have no recollection on how fast Flash was going during those instances. I also don't believe Darkseid Omegas are anywhere near light speed. Then Darkseid was able to perceive both of them during that instance, someone that doesn't have a single showing of super speed.

What was your question?

lol In the scene where superman was trying to grab flash, in your opinion would Thor from AvX fair better or worse?

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
lol In the scene where superman was trying to grab flash, in your opinion would Thor from AvX fair better or worse?

You mean Flash grabbing Superman? That was more of a flight ft for Superman so yes, he probably could since in AvX, it was stated that Mjlonir moves 3 times the speed of light and his hammer is what guides him.

no no. The part in the JL where superman managed to flick the flash. When superman was grabbing at him.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
no no. The part in the JL where superman managed to flick the flash. When superman was grabbing at him.

No, I don't think Thor could do it...he doesn't have the fts in AVX.

Superman has also ran 25000 mph and he has also read every medical book that was in a particular library in 5 minutes. I can't picture Thor doing any of that, even outside of AvX but I also don't consider Superman unhittable.

I thought he only ran 2500 mph?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought he only ran 2500 mph?

IIRC, it was 25000 mph which took him out of orbit.

Originally posted by carver9
90% of that fight took place off panel. Lol...the next time we see Gladiator after his fight against Cyclops, TWO Phoenix users was pounding on him.

Colossus and Magik didnt have a prolong fight against Thor, Glads got pounded on for no telling how long. Like I said, majority of the fight took place off panel but it sure as hell was ucmuch longer than any fight Thor been in and looking at the one shots he has endured, he probably would have died if he was put in Gladiator shoes.

I'd love to see how you quantified that only 10% of it took place on panel.

Thats because he got put down. From what I saw, Colussus delivered the finishing hit then Namor came and helped pound him. It's not like Gladiator would have fought back. He was done.

Prove they didn't. Thor has damage done that was not from a single swipe and punch. Chances are Thor used himself as a distraction so the others could run.

That's not a prolonged battle. Gladiator would have had to fight back for it to be a battle. He was finished and repeatedly beaten. Thats all.

Speculation based on nothing. Trying to make Gladiator getting put in a coma some sort of high showing lol. Thor did have the prolonged battle with Colossus and Magik. The evidence is in the OP. You're just wanking Gladiator. Like saying he did anything at all to Phoenix Force colossus other than smacking him and getting him to blink. Thor shattered Emma's entire Diamond form. But it still ultimately did nothing. Same as Gladiator.

lol @ Thor dying.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
no no. The part in the JL where superman managed to flick the flash. When superman was grabbing at him.

Like the new sig. 👆

Originally posted by Damborgson
Like the new sig. 👆

Thanks! I thought Issue one was a good start! I hope this series can do good!

Originally posted by carver9
No, I don't think Thor could do it...he doesn't have the fts in AVX.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman has also ran 25000 mph and he has also read every medical book that was in a particular library in 5 minutes. I can't picture Thor doing any of that, even outside of AvX but I also don't consider Superman unhittable.

so you do think superman is faster?

@Damborgson...

You don't make one bit of since and you probably wasn't reading the comic. We see Gladiator and Cyclops fighting...the next panel it shows Cyclops hugged up with Emma while Namor and Colossus is pounding on Gladiator. Gladiator face was bruised like he was fighting for days. Relook at the fight.

Then it skips again to an entire another scene once they take the camera away from Gladiator son. Majority of the fight took place off panel. This doesn't include Gladiator punching Colossus while having on a fresh outfit then the next time we see Gladiator, his suit is all ripped up. Majority, if not, ALL of that fight took place off panel.

Thor got worked more than once by one Phoenix user whereas they had to gangbang Gladiator. Get over it and move on.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Thanks! I thought Issue one was a good start! I hope this series can do good!

so you do think superman is faster?

Yes.

Then how is that not an advantage?