Originally posted by NihilistHe doesn't lie... he just doesn't read the comics and only goes by the scans on this site so therefore he is telling the truth because he doesn't know better
every poster on here must need meds then! As you are know as the forum idiot that lies all the time furthering his position as the boards laughing stock.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
True but URU strnegths varies depending on who enchanted itMjolnir forged and enchanted by Surtur was not a strong as Mjolnir reforged from the Odinpower
To a point, I agree with this but Serpent was pretty much on Odin level and those were enchanted weapons, enchanted to the point that even Magneto was unable to manipulate them (and Magneto has tossed Mjlonir to the side with ease).
It was stated more than once as being a Thor like weapons and why wouldn't the Serpent give them the same type of enchantment if again, he was as powerful as Odin himself?
Originally posted by carver9Odin > The Serpent(The Serpent himself stated as much.)
To a point, I agree with this but Serpent was pretty much on Odin level and those were enchanted weapons, enchanted to the point that even Magneto was unable to manipulate them (and Magneto has tossed Mjlonir to the side with ease).It was stated more than once as being a Thor like weapons and why wouldn't the Serpent give them the same type of enchantment if again, he was as powerful as Odin himself?
But that's moot anyway, as the Uru impregnated within Cap's shield wasn't enchanted by Odin, that I can recall...
Originally posted by Galan007
Odin > The Serpent(The Serpent himself stated as much.)But that's moot anyway, as the Uru impregnated within Cap's shield wasn't enchanted by Odin, that I can recall...
But again, them saying that the Worthys were walking around with Thor like weapons, more than once is proof enough imo. Everything doesn't have to be spelled out in order for us to realize what the author was hinting at.
Originally posted by h1a8
Your proof is this rule:If an attack can't damage [b]ANY
object then it would take a force over 999 trillion times greater to damage it.Well an egg is [/b]ANY object but fails at your rule. Thus your rule is false.
Now as far as my proof. I always give conservative lower bound estimates. This means the actual amount is much higher.
The level of penetration proves it. For example, a small insect can't penetrate the surface of water because the force of it's weight is less than the strength of the surface tension. But an object 1000 times more massive will.
Note: floating in water =/= not breaking the surface tensionLet's ignore my numbers and say I was wrong. Then it is still clear that penetrating something like a ghost shows many times that of what is being penetrated. I doubt that the shield is many times the durability of Superman, by feats. I'll be back later.
IOW, you can't prove that Superboy prime's hv is over 999 trillion times as powerful as Thor/Hulk's damage output.
Originally posted by carver9You aren't understanding me.
But again, them saying that the Worthys were walking around with Thor like weapons, more than once is proof enough imo. Everything doesn't have to be spelled out in order for us to realize what the author was hinting at.
I agree that Hulk is capable of breaking Uru that is enchanted by Odin-esque forces. But that's a moot point here because [iirc] the Uru within Cap's shield is not amped by Odin-esque enchantments. Therefore, the Uru in his shield should be easier to break than a Serpent-enchanted hammer... However, the Uru in Cap's shield is enchanted on some level-- and who knows, perhaps melding Uru with the material of Cap's shield produces a finished product exponentially more durable than each of the separate components (ie. 1+1=10.)
srug
Originally posted by Galan007
You aren't understanding me.I agree that Hulk is capable of breaking Uru that is enchanted by Odin-esque forces. But that's a moot point here because [iirc] the Uru within Cap's shield is not amped by Odin-esque enchantments. Therefore, the Uru in his shield should be easier to break than a Serpent-enchanted hammer.
However, the Uru in Cap's shield is enchanted on some level-- and who knows, perhaps melding Uru with the material of Cap's shield produces a finished product exponentially more durable than each of the separate components (ie. 2+2=10.)
srug
Aaaaahhhh, my bad, I did misunderstand you. What about Cap average shield, do you think Hulk could rip it?
Originally posted by carver9His new shield? Probably. His old shield definitely wasn't more durable than Odin-enchanted Uru, though(as evident when King Thor dented it with a strike from Mjolnir.) Both shields>>>adamantium, though.
Not saying that I disagree with you, just trying to get an understanding of how durable the shield is. Would you rank Cap Shield>enchanted URU and adamantium durability wise?
...And this is all assuming standard Hulk(HotM, for instance) is at least equal to Serpent-amped Hulk(Nul.) Because remember, Hulk was still Nul when he broke the hammer.
Originally posted by Galan007
His new shield? Probably. His old shield definitely wasn't more durable than Odin-enchanted Uru, though(as evident when King Thor dented it with a strike from Mjolnir.) Both shields>>>adamantium, though....And this is all assuming standard Hulk(HotM, for instance) is equal to Serpent-amped Hulk(Nul.) Because remember, Hulk was still Nul when he broke the hammer.
Gotcha.
I disagree with your second post though. Even though Nul showed up after HOTM, that doesn't mean he was dipping in that pool of power or we would have to say this about every Hulk after this. Then, we also have that showing of Nul facing Red She Hulk. She did pretty good against him.
Originally posted by Galan007
g007-psyduck You're misunderstanding me (again).Hulk was still technically empowered by The Serpent when he broke the hammer... He was still Nul. Therefore, HotM Hulk would have to be at least as powerful as Nul in order to break that same enchanted hammer/Uru.
Get it?
Lol...you didn't have to use the duck face on me Galan.
Yeah, I get it.
Originally posted by Galan007Cap's shield is more durable than Mjolnir.
His new shield? Probably. His old shield definitely wasn't more durable than Odin-enchanted Uru, though(as evident when King Thor dented it with a strike from Mjolnir.) Both shields>>>adamantium, though....And this is all assuming standard Hulk(HotM, for instance) is at least equal to Serpent-amped Hulk(Nul.) Because remember, Hulk was still Nul when he broke the hammer.