Superboy Prime vs The Avengers

Started by -Pr-66 pages

Originally posted by carver9
@Iceman...

You screaming out Prime heat vision hurting top tiers is like me screaming out Hulk thunderclap destroying dimensional barriers or dropping an amped Rulk who at the time was >>> top tier.

lol no. Not at all.

No, Galan.

@Iceman...

Are you truly asking me if Rulk durability back then when he used his full powers sucked. The guy tanked full blown Mjlonir shots from ODIN FORCE Thor with a smile on his face. Hell, Thor was even shocked. He was EASILY high trans to low Skyfather.

For the upteenth time... Loeb Rulk is barely valid if at all.

Carver is attempting to use him to show that Hulk is extremely powerful.

Look how powerful LoebRulk is! And Hulk beat him! Ergo, Hulk is more powah!

Even though A: Hulk used weakness exploitation, and B: that's not WWH.

Good try though.

Originally posted by -Pr-
For the upteenth time... Loeb Rulk is barely valid if at all.

I'm not using him for this battle since they are talking about depowered Rulk for this thread. You'll have to read back to see why we are talking about him.

Plus, ABC and all.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver is attempting to use him to show that Hulk is extremely powerful.

Look how powerful LoebRulk is! And Hulk beat him! Ergo, Hulk is more powah!

Even though A: Hulk used weakness exploitation, and B: that's not WWH.

Good try though.

That is WWH and what weakness exploiting did Hulk use?

Well, Ok, not quite weakness exploitation in the strictest sense....

But Hulk was able to draw on greater levels of anger and power which enabled him to go beyond what Rulk could take from him.

And he has no armour. I refuse to believe that that is WWH , *humph*.
Also:


Ok, tell me how the Avengers win? And I expect scans of them using said techniques in battle, against a flying superspeedster with HV up the wazoo and a certain willingness to murderdeathkill everything in sight. Oh, and it has to be current (or at least, as close to current as in the case of poor, dead Ares) incarnations of the characters named.

Oh, and we shall use your techniques. So it has to be in character, and as I kindly did not use PreCrisis feats, please keep them to recent events. Shouldn't be too hard with Rulk and WWH.

I await your reply.

Your Zom example was good, but he was hardly speeding, using flight, and using long range attacks, was he? Nor does Zom Strange get super charged with a ray of sunlight (which I'm assuming is present here). Nor does Zom use freeze breath etc etc. Am only using your tactics of debating here, as my tactics result in an impasse of you shouting nu-uh and me shouting ya huh!

Wow Dark. Why are you saying that I'm saying nu uh? I'm providing scans left and right...you are just ignoring the evidence. If you truly believe freeze breath and heat vision would take out WWH, I don't know what to tell you.

Zom was blitzing the hell out of Hulk. Look at those super speed punches Zom is doing. Hell, during that same fight it was stated ZS unleashed would have wrecked Earth. I don't know what more to show you to prove that WWH would give Prime hell. What is it you want to see buddy?

Originally posted by carver9
you are just ignoring the evidence.

ha.

Originally posted by carver9
Wow Dark. Why are you saying that I'm saying nu uh? I'm providing scans left and right...you are just ignoring the evidence.
Originally posted by -Pr-
ha.

It makes my stomach hurt when you do that. Please stop.

Originally posted by carver9
Wow Dark. Why are you saying that I'm saying nu uh? I'm providing scans left and right...you are just ignoring the evidence. If you truly believe freeze breath and heat vision would take out WWH, I don't know what to tell you.

Zom was blitzing the hell out of Hulk. Look at those super speed punches Zom is doing. Hell, during that same fight it was stated ZS unleashed would have wrecked Earth. I don't know what more to show you to prove that WWH would give Prime hell. What is it you want to see buddy?

He doesn't heal from damage like Prime does in sunlight.....which is, like, everywhere on the battlefield. You kinda ignored my scan where I showed Prime, being battered by, amongst others, Alan Scott, WW, Superman, WW, Powergirl, Wonder girl, Metamorpho (OK, I'm stretching there), then casually shrugging all of them off, just from a hand's worth of sun.

Plus his heat vision has gone through Superman like butter on two separate occasions (On one such occasion, Superboy Prime was at a very low point, weakened and drained).

If his heat vision were to hit Superman's head, rather than his hand or shoulder, Supes would be dead.

@Dark...

Oh, I'm highly impressed with what Prime did but I'm more impressed with this. Wendigo is powerful enough to stalemate Savage Hulk...Bi Beast is strong enough to over power Thor (to the point that Thor compared Bi Beast strength to Savage Hulk). In these scans, both were amped a thousand folds past their natural savage Hulk level strength. A thousand folds now. WWH face these two skyscraper amped size beings and stomps them.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7815942/Incredible_Hulks_631_013.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7815949/Incredible_Hulks_631_015.jpg.html

He punch them with enough force that he knocks them completely out of orbit and takes part of the city with them. Now you was impressed earlier with Prime_punching ION a few ft, this should be insane to you.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7815988/Incredible_Hulks_631_018.jpg.html

This is very simple. WWH feats happened in the World War Hulk arc. Planet Hulk/Green Scar feats happened in Planet Hulk & World War Hulk, since he was called Green Scar in both. WBH feats happened at the end World War Hulk and in Heart of the Monster..

Although, I will admit, very very impressive. Pity the feats you;re using weren't in the WWH arc....

This is why I specified:

Oh, and it has to be current (or at least, as close to current as in the case of poor, dead Ares) incarnations of the characters named

WWH was named. So use the feats from the WWH story arc, please.

Originally posted by carver9
Sorry, here is the scan Dark.

@Dark...

You are wrong though. The Hulk that I am posting is "this" Hulk. This Hulk admits in this scan that he is WWH. Can't get any clearer than this. This IS WWH and he admits this on panel (in this scan).

Got the scan before that? I just want to read his sentence properly, because at the moment, he's saying I'D turn into the Hulk, the same etc etc.

I'D = I WOULD. So he's not the same.

You know me, you know I'm fair....

@Dark...

He mentions he was the same Hulk in new york (which was WWH)...the same Hulk that defeated Sentry (which is WWH). Lol...like I've said, it can't get any clearer. WWH never left, he remained after the World at War arc...his personality and everything. Lol...don't know why you are trying to take away from the character.