@Cogita
Lol...I was serious when I said that nut. I rarely see you on anymore.
I agree, Prime does have super speed but its not in the type of advantage you want to make it.
Adam was using magic against Prime which failed. There are numerous of beings that have punched Prime in the face and made blood gush out of his mouth.
Originally posted by Cogito
Never said Prime was winning just with speed.
Just trying to debunk a myth.Oh, and punching Prime in the face doesn't tend to work.
Ask Black Adam.
Punching Prime in the face DOES work.
Ask the Teen Titans and Legionnaires, who knocked Prime OUT
(as SBP and as Time Trapper), as shown several pages prior.
As for your first comment, I see what we have here is not myth but miscommunication. I wasn't including simple bum rushes as blitzing.
I'm not using blitzing in the sense of someone lining up and rushing a quarterback. No, there's a reason I kept on emphasizing "blurring and flurrying".
Superspeed used to make himself too fast to hit, too fast to see, too fast to counter is what I mean by blitzing.
We've seen Superman do that. I don't think we've seen that from Prime.
Hulk has handled the level of non-winning speed you've shown in most of the respect thread scans you just presented.
If time permits, I might address those individually.
Thank you for showing those. Gives a framework we can use to present this a bit more systematically.
SBP versus Connor tackle.
SBP versus Sodam Yat (which is, arguably, Yat tackling HIM).
Compare that to Superman tackling Darkseid in Superman/Batman #13 and to Gladiator tackling Hulk in their fight, trying to take Hulk out of orbit
(SBP's tackles don't take his opponents nearly as fast or far as Superman's or Gladiator's did to THEIR opponents, incidentally).
Note that none of these power tackles proved, all on their own, the decisive stroke in a match.
Note also that, WITH Gladiator using such a direct method, Hulk was able to counter with a thunderclap to Gladiator's ears, crater them both back to Earth, and proceed to beat the crap out of Big G.
(It would be much appreciated if someone illustrated these points with relevant scans. Thank you in advance to anyone who does.)
Maybe someone can make these larger.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/comic%20book%20scans/1.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/comic%20book%20scans/2.jpg
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http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/comic%20book%20scans/6.jpg
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Originally posted by carver9
When has Hulk ever brought up "I'm turning into WWH"?. Come on Dark. He said, I'm turning into the Hulk that was in New York that fought the Avengers (WWH), the Hulk that defeated Black Bolt (WWH). The Hulk that defeated Doctor Strange (WWH). The Hulk that defeated Sentry (WWH). It can not, and when I say can not, it can not get any clearer than this.Here is the scan before the scan I showed you. What's the point of posting that?
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/WBHfootstepdoesitagain3.jpg
Where are you Dark.?
Originally posted by carver9
When has Hulk ever brought up "I'm turning into WWH"?. Come on Dark. He said, I'm turning into the Hulk that was in New York that fought the Avengers (WWH), the Hulk that defeated Black Bolt (WWH). The Hulk that defeated Doctor Strange (WWH). The Hulk that defeated Sentry (WWH). It can not, and when I say can not, it can not get any clearer than this.Here is the scan before the scan I showed you. What's the point of posting that?
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/WBHfootstepdoesitagain3.jpg
Nope, never said I AM turning into, he said I WOULD turn into the Hulk that etc etc. Btw, the scans are still not part of the WWH storyline, so.....I cannot accept them, sorry. Its like me saying that Time Trapper is also SBP, so I will use Time Trapper feats....
Nonetheless, you obviously think that a Titans-level beating would be enough to bring SBP down.
Whereas I think that as he has been able to take an Ion Sodam Yat beating, a Superman/Power Girl/MM/WW/Supergirl/Wonder Girl beating, a BA beating, and a Guardian blast, that he can take what the Hulk dishes out.
So, an impasse, really.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85QFT.
Nope, never said I AM turning into, he said I WOULD turn into the Hulk that etc etc. Btw, the scans are still not part of the WWH storyline, so.....I cannot accept them, sorry. Its like me saying that Time Trapper is also SBP, so I will use Time Trapper feats....Nonetheless, you obviously think that a Titans-level beating would be enough to bring SBP down.
Whereas I think that as he has been able to take an Ion Sodam Yat beating, a Superman/Power Girl/MM/WW/Supergirl/Wonder Girl beating, a BA beating, and a Guardian blast, that he can take what the Hulk dishes out.
So, an impasse, really.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nope, never said I AM turning into, he said I WOULD turn into the Hulk that etc etc. Btw, the scans are still not part of the WWH storyline, so.....I cannot accept them, sorry. Its like me saying that Time Trapper is also SBP, so I will use Time Trapper feats....Nonetheless, you obviously think that a Titans-level beating would be enough to bring SBP down.
Whereas I think that as he has been able to take an Ion Sodam Yat beating, a Superman/Power Girl/MM/WW/Supergirl/Wonder Girl beating, a BA beating, and a Guardian blast, that he can take what the Hulk dishes out.
So, an impasse, really.
You are not making one bit of sense.
When did Prime get punched by numerous of top tiers at once?
Also, what does QFT stand for?
WWH, no, I can't see him doing it.
Edit: @Galan: Yeah, he had been fighting through the night, had been blasted left, right and centre, been speed blitzing Flashes, then had his suit ripped off, then had been fighting all those top tiers....and then got the beat down. A handful of sun, and bam he's back again, ready to fight Sodam Yat Ion...
Originally posted by carver9
Don't know why not.
Hence, impasse.
At the end of the day, you're basing it all on the idea or a hope or whatever that Prime doesn't just go 'I hate you so much', throws a tantrum and chucks Hulk away. Because according to you, he has never shown on panel that he does this in character.
Well, show me on panel, in character, WWH fighting alongside Tony, or Ares, or Thor, or Rulk.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hence, impasse.At the end of the day, you're basing it all on the idea or a hope or whatever that Prime doesn't just go 'I hate you so much', throws a tantrum and chucks Hulk away. Because according to you, he has never shown on panel that he does this in character.
Well, show me on panel, in character, WWH fighting alongside Tony, or Ares, or Thor, or Rulk.
I can't but Im pretty sire the thread starter made this a team battle and not Hulk just turning around pimp slapping his team mates.
If Prime actually decided to bfr his opponents and he did so in comics, I would accept your argument but it isn't consistent for the character, just like it isn't consistent Thor would walk around teleporting his enemies away either.
