I take it you will not accept alternate Earth heralds, would you carver ;-)
In any case, IM's tactic of drawing power from different planets would be as applicable as SBP's tactic of chucking the AM into space...I'll just argue that he won't bust it out against an opponent like SBP.
So this thread is at a perpetual stalemate. We've both seen all the relevant scans from both sides, in the case of bluewater, some irrelevant scans, but we're not gonna convince each other. At least we didn't flame and bash - I'm just interested in juggerman's write up, at this point.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I take it you will not accept alternate Earth heralds, would you carver ;-)In any case, IM's tactic of drawing power from different planets would be as applicable as SBP's tactic of chucking the AM into space...I'll just argue that he won't bust it out against an opponent like SBP.
So this thread is at a perpetual stalemate. We've both seen all the relevant scans from both sides, in the case of bluewater, some irrelevant scans, but we're not gonna convince each other. At least we didn't flame and bash - I'm just interested in juggerman's write up, at this point.
100% 👆
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I take it you will not accept alternate Earth heralds, would you carver ;-)In any case, IM's tactic of drawing power from different planets would be as applicable as SBP's tactic of chucking the AM into space...I'll just argue that he won't bust it out against an opponent like SBP.
So this thread is at a perpetual stalemate. We've both seen all the relevant scans from both sides, in the case of bluewater, some irrelevant scans, but we're not gonna convince each other. At least we didn't flame and bash - I'm just interested in juggerman's write up, at this point.
Using alternate versions of characters would make King Hyperion>>Prime.
Originally posted by Damborgson
King hyperion would be that much superior to prime for beating hulk and thor? Or are there other showings that would make it more concrete?
He took out all of the Avengers, Xmen, Fantastic Four along with other random hero's simultaneously and with ease and they were all stacked against him. Prime took out the JLA one by one. That's the difference. Then Hype repeated the process over and over again "in groups". That's why I said, King Hyperion>>Prime based off of alternate showings.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm just interested in juggerman's write up, at this point.
You weren't interested in even that much before.
I'd call this progress.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
At least we didn't flame and bash ...
Ask Carver if there were any flaming or bashing.
I think he would disagree with your assessment.
But if you're trying to say this thread has been tamer than most, given the subject matter, that I would agree with.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
this thread is at a perpetual stalemate ... we're not gonna convince each other.
Speak for yourself. This thread was, what? 90% for Prime at the beginning? Saying it was a cakewalk for him?
Now it's a more or less even split, some of the people originally backing Prime have changed their mind, and even many of the people who endorse Prime are admitting he'd have a rough time of it if he DID manage a win.
Yet, how did that come about?
Scans and good argumentation.
Seems we need more of that sort of thing, not less.
Starting to wonder what it is about people presenting more evidence that scares you so, really ...
Originally posted by juggerman
Ok last question before i write up part 4. What do you think would happen if Thor godblasted Prime? Would he die? Would he tank it? If he is just damaged but alive how much damage do it do?
Not so familiar with the godblast one way or another.
I will point out, however, that, being, arguably, Thor's greatest weapon
(I have read reviews of it even affecting Galactus), that, IF it failed, Thor would be immediately convinced that Prime needed to be removed from the field of battle, and quickly, and as far away as necessary. Notice that the very next action Thor took against Juggernaut when he noticed the godblast didn't K.O. Juggernaut was battlefield removal via Mjolnir.
Notice, too, IF godblast fails, and IF Prime charges in retaliation, as people seem to be proposing he would, Thor need not concern himself with how to affect this. Merely open up a portal in front of Prime as he charges, and in (and away) Prime goes.
Originally posted by carver9
He took out all of the Avengers, Xmen, Fantastic Four along with other random hero's simultaneously and with ease and they were all stacked against him. Prime took out the JLA one by one. That's the difference. Then Hype repeated the process over and over again "in groups". That's why I said, King Hyperion>>Prime based off of alternate showings.
Scans? 😄
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Speak for yourself. This thread was, what? 90% for Prime at the beginning? Saying it was a cakewalk for him?Now it's a more or less even split, some of the people originally backing Prime have changed their mind, and even many of the people who endorse Prime are admitting he'd have a rough time of it if he DID manage a win.
Like whom?
Starting to wonder what it is about people presenting more evidence that scares you so, really ...
You mean, like how I presented evidence of Rulk, and you ignoring it until the OP had to come in and tell you?
Or how I presented evidence that Hulk couldn't go Worldbreaker, until Pr had to come in and say so?
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Not so familiar with the godblast one way or another.I will point out, however, that, being, arguably, Thor's greatest weapon
convinced that Prime needed to be removed from the field of battle, and quickly, and as far away as necessary. Notice that the very next action Thor took against Juggernaut when he noticed the godblast didn't K.O. Juggernaut was battlefield removal via Mjolnir.
(I have read reviews of it even affecting Galactus), that, IF it failed, Thor would be [B]immediatelyNotice, too, IF godblast fails, and IF Prime charges in retaliation, as people seem to be proposing he would, Thor need not concern himself with how to affect this. Merely open up a portal in front of Prime as he charges, and in (and away) Prime goes. [/B]