Superboy Prime vs The Avengers

Started by DarkSaint8566 pages

That wasn't the first punch of the fight, though. They'd been punching and heat visioning each other all the way to that lake, then they burnt the entire lake to steam. Then Prime did the two handed Kirk punch.

Originally posted by carver9
Pretty much everything. I don't think Prime has the power to drop Hulk. Then looking at what has dropped him and comparing it to what has dropped Prime, I think Hulk is superior. Zeus has pounded and when I say pounded I mean POUNDED on Hulk for a long extended amount of time and Hulk was still awake (but wrecked). Prime was nearly dropped by Conner with well placed hits, beat down by the titans, etc, etc...

The limits it takes to drop Hulk is pretty much skyfather and above...its pretty obvious Prime is below this. Minus versatility, I would rank WWH just a tad bit above Prime.


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At Damborgson...

This is the first punch/kick ION hit Prime with. Please look at all the blood on Prime face. Why do you do this to yourself?

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion10.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Pretty much everything. I don't think Prime has the power to drop Hulk. Then looking at what has dropped him and comparing it to what has dropped Prime, I think Hulk is superior. Zeus has pounded and when I say pounded I mean POUNDED on Hulk for a long extended amount of time and Hulk was still awake (but wrecked). Prime was nearly dropped by Conner with well placed hits, beat down by the titans, etc, etc...

The limits it takes to drop Hulk is pretty much skyfather and above...its pretty obvious Prime is below this. Minus versatility, I would rank WWH just a tad bit above Prime.

Since you say WWH is just a tad over Prime, then that means it's:
Connor>>>>>> WWH> Prime amiright?

Originally posted by carver9
At Damborgson...

This is the first punch/kick ION hit Prime with. Please look at all the blood on Prime face. Why do you do this to yourself?

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion10.jpg

Its the first punch/kick? You sure about that? 100% sure? It says Page 10. Were they chit-chatting in the preceding 9 pages?

Also, your scan says: one moment, it seems like he will falter, while the next moment makes me realize that this fight's just getting started.

You're right, just drawing blood doesn't mean that you've put Prime down..he really is a beast, and will get back up and tool you. 👆

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That wasn't the first punch of the fight, though. They'd been punching and heat visioning each other all the way to that lake, then they burnt the entire lake to steam. Then Prime did the two handed Kirk punch.

Characters often don't "maintain" their bloodied appearance during fights, tho. Best to post the scans wherein he (SBP) DOES get hit in order to emphasize your point, tho. Posting scans where he doesn't get hit and then claiming he doesn't get bloodied when hit doesn't help prove anything. :-p

Seems Carver's posted scan disproves your assertion of him not getting bloodied by Yat's attack.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Characters often don't "maintain" their bloodied appearance during fights, tho. Best to post the scans wherein he (SBP) DOES get hit in order to emphasize your point, tho. Posting scans where he doesn't get hit and then claiming he doesn't get bloodied when hit doesn't help prove anything. :-p

Seems Carver's posted scan disproves your assertion of him not getting bloodied by Yat's attack.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion.jpg

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion2.jpg

At Dark...
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I never said making Prime bleed is the key factor for winning a fight against him but you keep bringing up Black Adam isn't helping your case when others has damaged him. Even in the same fight you keep referencing, before Prime start wrecking ION, ION got in one more hit which splattered Prime blood across the wall.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion11.jpg

Are we allowed then to show Thing drawing blood from WWH? Because that is precisely the same thing you are doing:

---> Weakish Character A draws blood from Character B;
---> This means that Character B can be affected/damaged by X amount of force
---> Character C outputs significantly more force than Character A

Therefore, Character C will put Character B down.

You have used Connor/Ion Yat for Character A, and SBP for Character B. I see your wager, and raise you a Ben Grimm and WWH...

Thing has damaged/drawn blood from Hulk. SBP is significantly stronger than Thing. Therefore, SBP wins.

I meant to say Dark, not damborgson. Sorry about that.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Are we allowed then to show Thing drawing blood from WWH?

Yes...but I am not the one throwing around black Adam punches when overall, top tiers has damaged both Prime and WWH.

The issue here isn't that, though. Its the fact that part of your reasoning:

Prime was nearly dropped by Conner with well placed hits, beat down by the titans, etc, etc.

Means that you are using Conor as the benchmark for what is needed to drop Prime. I am saying, higher tiers than Conor have tried, and failed. So why do you insist on using outliers?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The issue here isn't that, though. Its the fact that part of your reasoning:

Means that you are using Conor as the benchmark for what is needed to drop Prime. I am saying, higher tiers than Conor have tried, and failed. So why do you insist on using outliers?

Im just going by everything as a whole, not just Conner. Prime is hard to drop, yes but I don't think he is impossible drop which is my point and I think members on this team has the potential and damage soak to stand up to him.

Besides the TT shitfest and the whole energies of a big bang exploding on his face...when has SBP ever been dropped in a fight?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Besides the TT shitfest and the whole energies of a big bang exploding on his face...when has SBP ever been dropped in a fight?

Same can be said about WWH. Besides a pissed Zeus and Devil Hulk amount off of Hulk along other super humans powers/fear (he still didn't drop Hulk), when has Hulk been dropped?

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Originally posted by carver9
Im just going by everything as a whole, not just Conner. Prime is hard to drop, yes but I don't think he is impossible drop which is my point and I think members on this team has the potential and damage soak to stand up to him.

Exactly.

As a whole, who managed to drop a Yellow Ring'ed, Monitor suited, fully sunlit Prime?

Originally posted by carver9
Same can be said about WWH. Besides a pissed Zeus and Devil Hulk amount off of Hulk along other super humans powers/fear (he still didn't drop Hulk), when has Hulk been dropped?

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Hehe you forgot the Hulk Corps :-p but I'm just jesting, not seriously bringing that up....

But you HAVE forgotten Sentry punching the gamma out of him...

But if you remember, I never said that Prime punches him to death. You and I both agree, BFR would be the way.

<3 the pawnage Prime dealt on Ion.

Originally posted by carver9
Same can be said about WWH. Besides a pissed Zeus and Devil Hulk amount off of Hulk along other super humans powers/fear (he still didn't drop Hulk), when has Hulk been dropped?

😮

Thx for totally not answering my question. I wasn't asking to then go on and claim SBP can't be KO'ed. Simply asked because I want to make sure I am not forgetting stuff about him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion.jpg
Huh, I never noticed this until now, but does anyone else see that the indirect force of Superboy Prime and Ion's clash seems to be harming some of the Guardians in proximity (As well as destroying the bridge)?

Yah, I saw that too. And I love the grinning AM over the top.