Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Saying this is quite different from saying Prime was shown at a "cracking planets with other planets" level of power.
Scans, please.
So have you not read Infinite Crisis?
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Also, to get a pre-emptive strike on a possible attempt to use this against Prime, him getting his face beaten by Bart wasn't a low showing at all, since Bart was the Speed Force at this time.
As for the Legions thing...
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Prime apparently devastated Oa.
Oh, and for a feat I forgot.
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Prime punching into the Anti-Monitor in one side and out the other, being completely immune to its Anti-Matter, and then tossing him to a distant planet, specifically, Ryut, which is in Sector 666, compared to Earth's Sector 2,814. Superboy Prime in all likelihood tossed the Anti-Monitor lightyears of distance away.
Plus there is of course the whole thing of Prime overpowering dozens of heroes, including many top-tiers or near top-tiers (Superman, Diana, Cass, Martian Manhunter, Alan Scott, etc.), and apparently injuring them all in the process.
This is very impressive until recalling that Superman himself, not generally accorded solo Earth-sized planet moving, supposedly cracked an entire Saturn moon in half, an object of rock many times thicker than the barrier Guy Gardner accorded that 300 mile thickness to.
But has Superman ever punched through a several hundred mile thick wall of willpower generated by dozens of lanterns?
And... Please don't play space feats using Superman against Prime, it won't end well, as I have demonstrated.
For that matter, you rightly accord "not fodder" status to only one of the Green Lanterns. But what were the rest?
It's hard to say, considering how the effort Prime expended to take out every GL, including Gardner, was about even. Aka, none at all. 😛
Snapping the arms of top tiers? I suppose you mean Hal Jordan.I agree that Hal is above your average Lantern, but checking the historic record reveals that Hulk, in weaker form than World War Hulk is generally purported to be, shattered Hal's constructs, too.
That's uh, not really the same thing, and not nearly as impressive a feat as Superboy Prime tearing through
For that matter, Kyle Rayner is generally accorded Hal's overall power ranking, or even slightly better. Kyle had his arm lightly broken by a White Martian in the JLA storyline "Terror Incognito", arguably with greater ease.
There is a difference however.
As we see in your scan, Kyle is being subdued by one White Martian physically in an armbar, giving the other free reign to use both arms to apply a hold that snaps his arm. He applies force to the forearm, pulling it backwards, while pushing at the elbow to break the arm. The White Martians are similar in a physical sense to Kyle, so it is perfectly reasonable to assume this is possible.
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Prime applied no sophisticated hold on Hal. He just squeezed, and Hal's arm snapped. To give you an idea of what this means, is that Prime, using no form of leverage or technique, has the raw physical strength to snap the bones of a top-tier by squeezing. No human can do this to another human that I am aware of with the strength of their grip alone.
I'll leave the heat vision one largely alone; at least one poster on another forum explained to me that people from Earth-Prime generally get a pass to more or less circumvent the defenses of residents of other DC Earths. Think he used the example of Cary Bates to make his point, but I don't remember the exact issue, and it would take some research to recover that, along with the explanation given in that book, if there was one.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I truly don't.
Also, honestly, even knowing why you do it, your posts are an eyesore, and responding is annoying.
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Yeah I hate them, basically a good chunk of my respect threads and links don't work anymore even before this new error thing.
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Sorry for the delay life has been a little crazy.
Part 4
With the strong men being picked apart by Prime, Tony has just about given up all hope. He knows he stands no chance confronting the boy but he is prepared to die fighting. Just as he's about to charge in to assist the Hulks he sees movement from Thor. Suddenly a new hope awakens inside Stark. They might have a chance after all.
Quickly rushing to Thor's side Tony helps the god of thunder to his feet. Thor is still clearly still dazed from the massive shot he recieved....from himself....
After a moment Thor is eager to return to the fray. Before he can IM reminds him of the arse whippin he got last time he tried to go one on one with the great one. Stark quickly reminds Thor of the plan he came up with earlier. Since now they better understand Prime's ability Tony makes slight alterations to the plan as needed. Once Thor fully understands his role he flies off to do whats needed.
Prime continues his onslaught on the Hulks wearing them down slowly. He can no longer tell if their strength is increasing since he isn't allowing himself to be touched. He doubts it tho. How could they still be getting stronger taking so many hits from him? No surely these beasts are on the verge of death. It's a wonder they survived this long. Oh well it'll be over soon and then he'll kill that other loser in the tin can and leave this pitiful world to find the only true Earth.
Blow after blow lands and these monster are still getting up. Still moving. Still breathing!!! Why won't they just DIE???? Finally, too frustrated for words, Prime grabs Hulk by his arm and screams "Let's see if you'll still be breathing when i throw you into the sun!"
"NOW!" Ironman screams. In an instant Mjolnir slams into Prime's face from above sending him to the ground. Prime gets up angrier than ever. Thor just smiles and taunts Prime saying such a tiny child could never hope to defeat a god! Thor then takes to the skies. Prime screams wildly about killing Thor to death and gives chase.
Ironman rushes over to the Hulks to fill them in on the plan. Thor is distracting Prime at the moment. When the time comes Hulk will need to grab a hold of Prime at which time Thor will open a portal and send them both to the Dark Dimension. Since Prime's powers come from sunlight he would gradually weaken while Hulk could cut loose and go worldbreaker on his ass! Perfect.
Just at that moment the Hulks overhear Stark's half of a convo he's having with Jarvis.
"Go ahead J..... what do you mean it won't work........not allowed to go worldbreaker????....what ruling??..... well who's stupid idea was that????......WHO THE F*** IS 'PR'???....."
Thor and Prime battle in the air at speeds so fast that they appear a blur to the rest of the world. "Since when did you become so fast Blondie?" Prime asks. "Thou isn't the only shrew that constantly forgets his powerset and fights poorly-ith" Thor replies.
Well this doesn't sit too kindly with Prime! Mostly because he has now idea what Thor just said! Prime attacks Thor but Thor is able to match Prime's speed and with his superior fighting skill that he just remembered he had he is able to keep Prime at bay.
Thor glances back at Tony to see if it is time to transport Prime but Stark seems to be having a full conversation with himself. And the Hulks are just looking at eachother confused. Thor over hears Tony yelling something about Namor being greater than Arthur will ever be. This needs to finish quickly....
After his convo with that bastard Jarvis Tony informs the Hulks that there needs to be a slight change in the plan. Since Hulk is forbidden on going worldbreaker Red Hulk will also be sent just to insure the job gets done. The Hulks agree this is best and Tony finally gives Thor the signal.....
Originally posted by juggerman
willrules'?
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Originally posted by bluewaterriderBelieve me when I say I truly, sincerely, do not care. If you want to debate, then you should do so in a way that makes it more convenient for your opponent to address your points.
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Yup error occurred. **** PhotobucketYeah I hate them, basically a good chunk of my respect threads and links don't work anymore even before this new error thing.
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Use imageshack or imagevenue or whatever then.
And I've never had problems with photobucket. Clearly KM and iceman (especially iceman) just suck. estahuh
Originally posted by NemeBro
If you want to debate, then you should do so in a way that makes it more convenient for your opponent to address your points.
I have, and the format of your post before this one I'm responding to is proof of that, given that it's structure was my own.
It's not all that hard to understand.
The questions I'm giving examination to, again, are:
1) What level of force or tactics have affected, hurt, or defeated Prime in the past?
2) Is such fairly consistent over the comic record?
3) Can the Avengers match or exceed these levels of force or reproduce these tactics or similar battle strategies?
4) Is such part of their modus operandi for facing powerful opponents?
5) Are the Avengers likelier to accomplish their objective of beating Prime, considering the above, before Prime can defeat them, or is the reverse more likely?
Originally posted by Blight
Bluewater debates about whether or not he's inconveniencing his debate opponents the same way he debates about the subject matter. So far he's remained a rock on both subjects despite numerous counter-arguments.
That's because the majority of the "numerous counter-arguments" to both haven't been particularly GOOD counter-arguments.
Assuming they were even relevant in the first place.
But I think in the next few pages you'll see why I've been doing things the way I've been doing them, whether you'll then be able to admit the practicality of my method or not.
Revamped URL bank for Juggernaut versus Thor 2, Thor #429.
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Source: Thor #429, Volume 1
Writer: Tom DeFalco
Penciller: Ron Frenz
Date: February 1991
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