Originally posted by -Pr-
So where is this debate now?
Well, I'm going off to dinner for the time being, but so far we're establishing what Prime does and does not do in character in his battles, which takes a while.
We've covered to a small extent what Thor does in his battles, both solo and as part of a group.
Carver is slowly bringing to the table what World War Hulk's capabilities are. Currently, he and DS are focusing on Zom as a Prime stand-in.
No one has presented anything whatsoever for War Machine.
I think I'm the only one who is covering what Iron Man can bring to the table if he has sense enough to fight as an ally and not a main combatant, with the exception of juggerman, who has been scripting Tony as de facto battle leader for the Avengers.
In other words we have maybe 80% of what Prime can and cannot do presented, 70% or so for Thor, less than half of what Hulk can do, I'd wager, and I'm steadily showing what Prime has been doing chronologically to estabish that, no, overall Prime has NOT been behaving as a pre-Crisis kryptonian in terms of power magnitude, vulnerabilities OR invulnerabilities.
Anyway, though, like I said, I'm off to dinner for now ...
SBP wins, but based on his averages, it's no stomp.
Rulk would be treated like Namor treated him.
Ares and War Machine are non factors.
Thor and WWH are the biggest threats here, in his rage, WWH gets thrown away, and Thor lasts the longest.
Iron Man lasts a bit longer than War Machine, but based on his standard non buster suits, gets ripped out of it.
Originally posted by -Pr-
So where is this debate now?
Bluewater is, I suspect, someone who twists things to suit his points, and ignores other evidence, whilst burying people in long posts. This may be construed as member-bashing, but I feel if you are able to call people out on easily verifiable information, then it shows that they cannot be trusted on comic knowledge that may have happened 20 or so years ago.
We have agreed that Rulk cannot absorb non-gamma energies.
Damborgson has agreed that the WWH used in this thread has showings outside of the WWH story arc.
Carver subsequently creamed himself.
Juggerman was writing up a story, then real life intervened, I guess.
Otherwise, everyone's stance is the same. The pro-Prime supporters still support Prime, and the pro-Avengers supporters support the Avengers.
Best bet at the moment for the Avengers to win is for Thor to BFR Prime. In character, apparently.
Bluewater was trying to show things like Connor and Krypto are able to affect Prime, and that Tony would be unaffected by heat vision. And that Tony, without prep, would BFR Prime by teleporting him somewhere. In character. But Prime will not throw them into space. In character.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Bluewater is, I suspect, someone who twists things to suit his points, and ignores other evidence, whilst burying people in long posts. This may be construed as member-bashing, but I feel if you are able to call people out on easily verifiable information, then it shows that they cannot be trusted on comic knowledge that may have happened 20 or so years ago.We have agreed that Rulk cannot absorb non-gamma energies.
Damborgson has agreed that the WWH used in this thread has showings outside of the WWH story arc.
Carver subsequently creamed himself.
Juggerman was writing up a story, then real life intervened, I guess.
Otherwise, everyone's stance is the same. The pro-Prime supporters still support Prime, and the pro-Avengers supporters support the Avengers.
Best bet at the moment for the Avengers to win is for Thor to BFR Prime. In character, apparently.
Bluewater was trying to show things like Connor and Krypto are able to affect Prime, and that Tony would be unaffected by heat vision. And that Tony, without prep, would BFR Prime by teleporting him somewhere. In character. But Prime will not throw them into space. In character.