Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So how is Thor beating Gladiator possibly PIS when you mentioned reflexes and hyperspeed fighting and whatnot, but Hulk beating him isn't?Judging from your post you seem to be implying that Gladiator's speed advantage could be argued to be too much for Thor...but not Hulk?
It's not PIS for either of them since both can beat Glads imo.
Originally posted by abhilegend
What jake is talking about is Thor 459 where a freed from eric's subconsciousness thor and a mindcontrolled masterson thor went toe to toe. That was essentialy a stalemate too.
Not sure how a crazy violent Masterson being stalemated by a holding back Thor is something to argue Masterson being equal to Thor.
Originally posted by carver9Thor killed amped thing just by recalling his hammer so lulz
And Thing. He one shot him.
Originally posted by carver9
It's not PIS for either of them since both can beat Glads imo.
Exactly.
Which is why I find it out that PIS "could be argued" when Thor beats Gladiator, but not when Hulk does it.
Especially when Thor has more options when it comes to countering speed that Hulk does by far.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not sure how a crazy violent Masterson being stalemated by a holding back Thor is something to argue Masterson being equal to Thor.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor wasn't holding back after masterson striked Sif and even after that it was a stalemate. Then you consider that Eric was mindcontrolled. Masterson thor was every bit equal of thor, he just lacked the warrior spirit.
He was angry but even then was talking Eric down, expressing regret and conflict over the fight whereas Eric didn't give a damn and was pissy.
He was valiant and noble, but he wasn't equal to Thor.
Originally posted by DTM
I dont believe Thor without his hammer could one shot KO Thing, unless Thing was taken completely by surprise. Thing has fought the Hulk too many time for me to believe that a hammerless Thor can KO Thing with a single shot mid-combat.
Considering his physical strength completely dwarfs Thing and his other feats to consider, I'd have to disagree.
Originally posted by carver9
IIRC, didn't Thor 459 take place "after" the Masterson and Gladiator fight?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Considering his physical strength completely dwarfs Thing and his other feats to consider, I'd have to disagree.
To me, Thor is not stronger than the Hulk, and clearly Thing fights the Hulk and lasts more than a single punch, generally alot more, so yeah Im heavily supporting if Thing is ready for a fight, Thor (let alone a weaponless Thor) should not be able to KO him with one blow. It goes against virtually every fight Ive ever seen Thing involved in.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He was angry but even then was talking Eric down, expressing regret and conflict over the fight whereas Eric didn't give a damn and was pissy.He was valiant and noble, but he wasn't equal to Thor.
