Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thanks for the second set of scans, carver 👆Question, though. In the scans, it shows Gladiator sneak attacking Thor, no? I mean, Thor gets a bit of an inkling an attack is about to happen, but as to when, he doesn't quite know..
And all of you have different interpretations of KO, lol. Thor's not KOed in those scans - he's shouting and boasting, as Thor usually does.
Masterson snuck attack Gladiator though.
Originally posted by carver9
Masterson snuck attack Gladiator though.
No, I meant in the 2nd set of scans...just before the 'KO'.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He's referred to the fight I initally brought up in the second volume of Thor. Gladiator disarms Thor and punches him across the city, and 60 seconds expire in which Thor reverts to his mortal alter ego.This happens after Gladiator heat visions Jake Olsen, and takes his ex's daughter hostage prior to Olsen turning into Thor. Gladiator is also trying to kill Thor while Thor is reasoning with him.
Once Thor has had enough and stops holding back through words and deeds, he fells Gladiator in a handful of blows.
Using future versions, an exhausted/fatigued Gladiator= an amped Thor.
Originally posted by carver9
Masterson snuck attack Gladiator though.
Yeah this scene happens right after Glads puts Simon to sleep. It should also be noted that Eric was very nervous and unsure of himself.
Originally posted by carver9
He was scared after seeing what Gladiator did to Wonderman. He even asks himself how can they defeat someone like Gladiator.
Actually he was nervous before Simon ever left the Quinjet if you recall. This is why Simon flipped on him, and went out alone, even knowing that Gladiator was going to bounce him off the walls.
Originally posted by carver9
He was scared after seeing what Gladiator did to Wonderman. He even asks himself how can they defeat someone like Gladiator.
And then Eric winds up beating Gladiator with some luck and Gladiator being a dumbass (which, I guess, is Eric's fault).
But in the end, we all agree Thor > Gladiator based on feats and respective encounters. 👆
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And a normal present day Thor > prepped, bloodlusted, hostage taking, weakness exploiting future Gladiator.One guess as to which feat is more impressive.
Thor speed being boost all the way to hyper speed wasn't enough to take out a fatigued Gladiator that stalemated him. I'm more impressed with that one buddy.
Now looking at the fight you are referencing it still shines well for Gladiator since the guy lived and was up not to long from a blast that Rivaled Odins power AFTER being hit by a blast from Thor.
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Regarding Masterson Thor being physically weaker and less powerful than normal Thor, this is from Marvel.com:
"Thor and Eric shared a body in the same manner in which Donald Blake and Thor had, although the latter two were never truly separate beings"
Kinda sounds like Masterson was basically in control of Thors actual body, so I dont see any reason he wouldnt have had Thors full power during that time.
Originally posted by Stoic
@Jake. Do you think that Thor is so far above Gladiator that if the both of them were prepared to do battle and both were in prime condition, that it would not be a very close fight?
Conventionally, it would be a close fight.
But the fact that a non holding back Thor literally took down a Gladiator willing to kill in a handful of blows after exclaiming he can hold back no longer speaks volumes on where they stand unleashed.
Which is, as a matter of fact, consistent with each of their portrayals as a whole. Gladiator can fight Thor on even grounds and with some help even get the advantage. But Thor when he stops holding back is another level completely.
Can't see how any one can disagree, really, unless they think it's all PIS or something.
Originally posted by DTM
Regarding Masterson Thor being physically weaker and less powerful than normal Thor, this is from Marvel.com:"Thor and Eric shared a body in the same manner in which Donald Blake and Thor had, although the latter two were never truly separate beings"
Kinda sounds like Masterson was basically in control of Thors actual body, so I dont see any reason he wouldnt have had Thors full power during that time.
Because the real Thor existed at the exact time that Masterson did?
He literally was chilling in Asgard as Masterson was on Midgard/Earth.
