Originally posted by NephthysExcept Ganon was actively using power from the triforce. QED.
Ganon had a specific room for storing the Triforce. That indicates that it was separate from him while he possessed it. QED.
The triforce does the exact same thing after Ganon dies in aLttP as it did in WW when all of the pieces were seperatred from their wielders.
It, you know, formed the triforce.
So? That doesn't indicate that it wasn't separate from him.
It appears in a different room. If the Triforce was formed after Ganon died then if would have just formed above Ganon after he dies. In WW it forms in the immediate vicinity to where the pieces here. If what you're saying is true then on Ganon's death it somehow teleported into that room, completely contrary to how it acted in WW.
Originally posted by NephthysYes, it does. Since what you're essentially claiming is the completed triforce is a 'wishes only' deal.
So? That doesn't indicate that it wasn't separate from him.It appears in a different room. If the Triforce was formed after Ganon died then if would have just formed above Ganon after he dies. In WW it forms in the immediate vicinity to where the pieces here. If what you're saying is true then on Ganon's death it somehow teleported into that room, completely contrary to how it acted in WW.
We've seen it form the same way several times in the series. Forming one room over when the entire world exists how it does because Triforce is hardly damning when we know that Ganon is actively using it's power during the course of the game.
I should also add, if the triforce can give it's power to someone while existing separately that it changes nothing anyway, and only gives the triforce a new ability. To be locked in a room and still make you a planetary threat.
No, I'm only claiming that it exists independently from the user. As I've said usually the Triforce pieces go inside the wielders as represented by the symbol on their hands. This doesn't seem to be the case for the full Triforce. Thats all I'm saying. If what you've said is true about Ganon using it to create natural disasters then I don't see how it can only be a wishing well.
Which proves what exactly? I'll acknowledge that he uses it the whole game. How does that prove that its not separate from him?
Who says that its locked in a room? Its Ganon's place and presumably he put it there, I'm sure he can access the room to use it. How he uses it I don't know. Is there any on-screen examples of someone using the Triforce for something that isn't wishing?
Is there any indication that he can use its power without being near it? As in, in the other room?
My point is that he doesn't have its power. Just like Link doesn't have the Master Swords power, for example. Link can use the MS, but he can't use its power without wielding it.
Just because he used its power off-screen doesn't mean he can use it whenever. You still havn't shown how he uses it yet.
Originally posted by NephthysHe can kind of use it across dimensions, Aghinihm or however you spell it.
Is there any indication that he can use its power without being near it? As in, in the other room?My point is that he doesn't have its power. Just like Link doesn't have the Master Swords power, for example. Link can use the MS, but he can't use its power without wielding it.
Just because he used its power off-screen doesn't mean he can use it whenever. You still havn't shown how he uses it yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHwZIgcqNYM#t=34s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHwZIgcqNYM#t=2m
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHwZIgcqNYM#t=3m40s
There is a brief period in Skyward Sword where Link collects all 3 pieces of the Triforce. They don't really do anything in gameplay though, as it triggers a cutscene and then Link makes a wish without touching it. Then he just leaves it there.
Still, the wishing is all anyone uses it for. There are examples of individual pieces being used for other things, but the whole Triforce is only used for wishes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yh1g9B_eBY
Though in Ocarina of Time they get close and seem to try to combine, but never actually do.
Originally posted by BloodRainThat's single piece tier. 😛
"Since there seems to be no definitive idea of Links physical capabilities_"City block+ durability if the castle busting is accepted, best think that can sorta be confirmed for Link.
But moot since with the ToP physical injury isn't really an issue.
Sticking with out. TP Ganon if the one that's knocked over by simple cow tipping.
LoZ Ganon, weakened to vulnerability.
OoT Ganon, weakened to a point where he screams in pain as he collapses.
Killing OoA/S Ganon.
Knocked over, weakened, collapsed and death by non-evils bane weapons without the ToP acting like regen.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Sticking with out. TP Ganon if the one that's knocked over by simple cow tipping.LoZ Ganon, weakened to vulnerability.
OoT Ganon, weakened to a point where he screams in pain as he collapses.
Killing OoA/S Ganon.Knocked over, weakened, collapsed and death by non-evils bane weapons without the ToP acting like regen.