Originally posted by The Scenario<3
Okay, got some durability feats ready.Wind Waker Link gets thrown around a lot, often for distances counted in miles, and smacks directly into solid surfaces or water that would feel solid at such heights. Little dude's almost as immune to blunt force as Luffy is.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
With the full triforce?
Link, every Link we have feats for, sits comfortably in the meta-human range.
I can accept that maybe Skyward Sword Link has done some non-gameplay stuff (since I haven't played that one), but every Link? You actually think that NES Link did anything superhuman in the non-existent story of that game? Or Link's Awakening Link, the one who needed a damn item just to jump? Or Four Swords Link who needed 3 extra people to do anything? This whole "Every Link is superhuman" crap just reeks of fan-boy tinted glasses bullshit. And it's not to say I hate Link (although forums have certainly made me like him less), otherwise I wouldn't have played so god damn many of his games (hell, if this was a Zelda Games vs OP games thread, Zelda would win hands down in playablity and fun), but when people on forums try to over inflate the attributes of a dozen characters who weren't even designed with any kind of logical continuity in mind, it gets really freaking ridiculous.
Wind Waker Link gets thrown around a lot, often for distances counted in miles, and smacks directly into solid surfaces or water that would feel solid at such heights. Little dude's almost as immune to blunt force as Luffy is.
This contradicts the whole gameplay vs story issue since if any Link fell off of a building in a cut-scene, he'd die. He can survive that shit in the game because instant deaths are too cheap for that type of game. By that logic Link IS as strong as Superman, which is stupid -_-
This contradicts the whole gameplay vs story issue since if any Link fell off of a building in a cut-scene, he'd die. He can survive that shit in the game because instant deaths are too cheap for that type of game. By that logic Link IS as strong as Superman, which is stupid -_-
Give me ten full minutes of 'wat' to try and digest this.
Your argument is that if something bad happened to Link in a cutscene he'd die, except after three separate cutscenes of bad things happening to Link he doesn't die, you form this conclusion? Wat.jpg?
Link's cutscene durability strongly contradicts that falls even hurt him at all.
This also reminds me, that bird that tossed Link multiple miles?
Link comes back and kills its' ass with a ****ing hammer.
Originally posted by BloodRainHonestly? How tough it would make him exactly? I'm totally unsure. Nothing except Link has ever been able to harm Ganon once he had the ToP anyway, so the extent of it's power is an unknown. The full triforce is only ever seen at the end of games, and never to amp a single character.
^"every Link we have feats for"ToP/ToC gave large building dura (greater for Dorf than Link) and ToK gave virtually nothing physically.
What are the physical feats granted by all three pieces?
What we do know about it is a lot of power scaling. And that it would be hardcore as ****. Significantly more powerful than any singular Link without it.
Originally posted by The ScenarioT, watch the first and third video, lol.
Okay, got some durability feats ready.Wind Waker Link gets thrown around a lot, often for distances counted in miles, and smacks directly into solid surfaces or water that would feel solid at such heights. Little dude's almost as immune to blunt force as Luffy is.
Also, once the distance your thrown is being counter in miles, water doesn't break your fall at all, and is comparable to concrete in it's softness due to surface tension.
Strength feats, going for a few different Links.
Wind Waker. Done with an item, Power Bracelets.
Ocarina of Time. Done with an item, Golden Gauntlets.
Twilight Princess. No strength enhancing item, but he did use the Ball & Chain.
Link's strong, but not quite as strong as Luffy. He does wield a sword, though, and Luffy has trouble with sharp objects even with Haki. If he gets a hit in it will hurt Luffy, but Luffy's damage soak gets pretty ridiculous so I wouldn't say it's a reliable strategy.
I maintain that a magic focused Link like ALttP could could Luffy down via non-physical means, but would be unable to take any hits in return. Whereas the more physical Links could take a few hits but be unable to hurt Luffy enough to get past his Shonen willpower.
I'm not counting Triforce stuff because I don't know how to handle it.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
T, watch the first and third video, lol.Also, once the distance your thrown is being counter in miles, water doesn't break your fall at all, and is comparable to concrete in it's softness due to surface tension.
First video: pretty sure that entire scene was for comedic effect plus he had a barrel to take some of the impact.
Second video: He landed in water i.e, cushion.
Third video: Again, meant for comedic effect. By that standard Nami is the strongest character in One Piece. Also, he hits the building at the decline of his fall, meaning when all the momentum is lost, so it's no more painful than the first comedic fall.
Also how is this "every Link", these are all from Wind Waker. Weren't you saying that LttP is the strongest? Then why is WW link the only one taking falls? See this the problem comparing a dozen unrelated characters to one very defined character, you can't have a consistent measurement of power.
Landing in water is not a cushion, it'd bloody kill iirc.
Honestly? How tough it would make him exactly? I'm totally unsure. Nothing except Link has ever been able to harm Ganon once he had the ToP anyway, so the extent of it's power is an unknown. The full triforce is only ever seen at the end of games, and never to amp a single character.What we do know about it is a lot of power scaling. And that it would be hardcore as ****. Significantly more powerful than any singular Link without it.
Aye, but still pegs his dura in the' can be hurt by Link' area as his only known feat.
O.o What is there to physically powerscale it off? Can't think of anything in-verse at its level.
If he gets a hit in will hurt Luffy
Magical glass cannons with the non-physical Link's. Though not sure what else besides Quake(?) would be desired.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Also, once the distance your thrown is being counter in miles, water doesn't break your fall at all, and is comparable to concrete in it's softness due to surface tension.
Are we willing to be that strict with the physics? Water is used to stop falls from great heights all the time in fiction, even for people with normal durability.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Luffy was able to tie against Zorro. Physical equal with three swords.
Not saying it'd be a mortal wound, but even Buggy could scratch Luffy's skin, as could Kuro. Hody bit through armament Haki, eliciting a "I guess can't deal with sharp stuff yet" from Luffy. I think Link can cut him. I also think it will take significantly more than one cut to put Luffy down.
Magical glass cannons with the non-physical Link's. Though not sure what else besides Quake(?) would be desired.
I'd say Ether. Luffy's track record against ice isn't the best.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Are we willing to be that strict with the physics? Water is used to stop falls from great heights all the time in fiction, even for people with normal durability.
Feat's a feat mate. Ball lightning is something to argue against but everyone knows that falling on water from a sufficient height is honestly not going to matter much.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. Its a wide-spread concept in all of fiction.
LoZ is on that page too btw.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Landing in water is not a cushion, it'd bloody kill iirc.Aye, but still pegs his dura in the' can be hurt by Link' area as his only known feat.
O.o What is there to physically powerscale it off? Can't think of anything in-verse at its level.
Luffy was able to tie against Zorro. Physical equal with three swords.
Magical glass cannons with the non-physical Link's. Though not sure what else besides Quake(?) would be desired.
Link can do it because of Fi, honestly. She's stronk and can overcome Ganon's otherwise nigh invulnerability.
The thing is, with the ToP, Link would in all likelihood have said nigh-invulnerability. As well as exponentially greater strength than with just the ToC alone. mmm
Things we can scale the full triforce off? Well, SS gives us Hylia, for one. Hylia would be a pushover next to the entire triforce but created a planetary seal and fought back an army of demons, beat Demise (at great apparent cost) and such. We can cross out the seal and the like because Link doesn't get to reality warp, but the indication of relative power is there.
The dragons that Hylia created are casual city busters with no reality warping required. Just getting mad can have them doing terrible, terrible things to the surface world. mmm
We also know that with the ToP even being physically wounded isn't a big deal. Ganondorf did kind of spend all of TP with a hole in his chest and no ****s to give about it.
Shit we know Ganondorf can just kind of do with a single piece includes merging worlds on a country wide scale, turning off the sun, causing continent sized storms (the latter two with a seal on his power).
We cannot actually give Link those powers, but the scale of them should give an idea of what his quake and bombos spells might look like with the entire triforce, for example.
So, I can't give a definite level of physical or magical power, but it'd be big. /Shrug.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I wouldn't be so sure of that. Its a wide-spread concept in all of fiction.LoZ is on that page too btw.
It's also impossible to dodge lasers. Fictional characters do it all the time. Surviving a fall into water is still a feat. 😛
Originally posted by T-Wrecks
First video: pretty sure that entire scene was for comedic effect plus he had a barrel to take some of the impact.
Comedic effect doesn't really change what happens, which is Link slamming directly into a stone wall. On the other hand, he also had a wooden barrel hitting him, too.
Second video: He landed in water i.e, cushion.
Not from that height. At terminal velocity or faster, water acts like any hard surface. You're hitting the water faster than it can move out of the way, so it acts solid. Something similar happens in air around mach 4 or 5.
Third video: Again, meant for comedic effect. By that standard Nami is the strongest character in One Piece. Also, he hits the building at the decline of his fall, meaning when all the momentum is lost, so it's no more painful than the first comedic fall.
Don't recall Nami's chastisements ever having any real effect beyond the cosmetic. I mean, a bump on the head or or something, but no one is ever actually injured by this.
Also how is this "every Link", these are all from Wind Waker. Weren't you saying that LttP is the strongest? Then why is WW link the only one taking falls? See this the problem comparing a dozen unrelated characters to one very defined character, you can't have a consistent measurement of power.
I just chose Wind Waker as it was a quick example. Some other Link have similar feats.
Originally posted by The Scenario
They're tough to find without commentary.Cannon 1 (Into the desert)
Cannon 2 (Into the sky)
Cannon 3 (From the sky)
This was in another thread, but it's applicable here, too.
Originally posted by The Scenario
Not saying it'd be a mortal wound, but even Buggy could scratch Luffy's skin, as could Kuro. Hody bit through armament Haki, eliciting a "I guess can't deal with sharp stuff yet" from Luffy. I think Link can cut him. I also think it will take significantly more than one cut to put Luffy down.I'd say Ether. Luffy's track record against ice isn't the best.
Oh yeah, Link can cut Luffy given the chance. I only gave the Zorro example (stronger, faster, more blades going around) as if Zorro tied with him, Link wouldn't fair as well in h2h.
Can't remember his ice resist, can only guess with the whole rubber thing, so that might be a thing.