Link vs Luffy

Started by The Scenario16 pages
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Why you offline, Scenario? :c

I may have that "invisible mode" thing on. Don't remember why.

Better?

Can't remember his ice resist, can only guess with the whole rubber thing, so that might be a thing.

Luffy's only real experience against ice is nearly freezing to death on Drum island and nearly freezing to death against Aokiji. I think if Link can pull off an Ether, he might get Luffy to freeze to death.

It's stated that she beats up his spirit.

Obviously a master of Women's Haki.

Still shows you as offline to me and I can't send you IMs. mmm

I must say, I'm glad with the way I designed this thread. I like how you guys are weighing the pros and cons of each Link to determine who would be the "strongest" in this scenario(name drop <3).

Not my intention while making it but since it is kinda cool to watch, I dun mind. ^_^

Probs missing something, but freezing looks like the way to go.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link can do it because of Fi, honestly. She's stronk and can overcome Ganon's otherwise nigh invulnerability.

The thing is, with the ToP, Link would in all likelihood have said nigh-invulnerability. As well as exponentially greater strength than with just the ToC alone. mmm

Things we can scale the full triforce off? Well, SS gives us Hylia, for one. Hylia would be a pushover next to the entire triforce but created a planetary seal and fought back an army of demons, beat Demise (at great apparent cost) and such. We can cross out the seal and the like because Link doesn't get to reality warp, but the indication of relative power is there.

The dragons that Hylia created are casual city busters with no reality warping required. Just getting mad can have them doing terrible, terrible things to the surface world. mmm

We also know that with the ToP even being physically wounded isn't a big deal. Ganondorf did kind of spend all of TP with a hole in his chest and no ****s to give about it.

Shit we know Ganondorf can just kind of do with a single piece includes merging worlds on a country wide scale, turning off the sun, causing continent sized storms (the latter two with a seal on his power).

We cannot actually give Link those powers, but the scale of them should give an idea of what his quake and bombos spells might look like with the entire triforce, for example.

So, I can't give a definite level of physical or magical power, but it'd be big. /Shrug.

I thought that was the whole 'cant be hurt unless by blessed weapons' thing? With or without it doesnt say much for his dura outside that magical/holy aspect. And tbh Hylia and the dragons own magical abilities don't show their physical stats or hint to such for someone that beats them.

I would agree that this three piece suit would be hella powerful, but we don't see much from it besides what the ToP (and only that one not the other two, which is stupid :< ) can do. I mean, didnt SS Link have the whole thing? He didnt show much of anything with it.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Probs missing something, but freezing looks like the way to go.

I thought that was the whole 'cant be hurt unless by blessed weapons' thing? With or without it doesnt say much for his dura outside that magical/holy aspect. And tbh Hylia and the dragons own magical abilities don't show their physical stats or hint to such for someone that beats them.

I would agree that this three piece suit would be hella powerful, but we don't see much from it besides what the ToP (and only that one not the other two, which is stupid :< ) can do. I mean, didnt SS Link have the whole thing? He didnt show much of anything with it.

No, SS Link left it on the goddess statue.

For some reason, lol. Probably so there could actually BE a final fight, I guess. PIS there.

And here's the thing, Luffy lacks a holy weapon. mmm And even then, a blessed butterknife wouldn't cut it. (Heehee)

Even the MS wouldn't hurt Ganondorf when it was depowered in WW.

It has to be something very powerful. It's not even that Ganondorf is necessarily weak to holy weapons, either, that is never said.

What IS said is that the sword is super effective against evil, which Ganon is.

So, Ganon is just really ****ing durable and the sword is a good can opener. But yeah. Link also has good durability.

Combine the two. Add a third.

And yeah, it's hard to really gauge just how physically powerful he'd become, but all signs point to "very". Like we know in WW Link can take a physical beating from Ganondorf with the ToC. In OoT there's the slash Link tries to block as well. In TP there's resisting being crushed by Dangoro and stopping Ganon's charge, and being hit by that axe. MM and SS have stronk unamped feats as well, and so foes WW Link actually.

That said, their magical power is pretty high up there, too. Imagine full triforce Ether? 131 The triforce would grant Link power well outstripping theirs. All we do is extrapolate spells he already has.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
I must say, I'm glad with the way I designed this thread. I like how you guys are weighing the pros and cons of each Link to determine who would be the "strongest" in this scenario(name drop <3).

Not my intention while making it but since it is kinda cool to watch, I dun mind. ^_^

I'm having fun with a Link thread again. It has been. So. Long.

Luffy is the winner, barring strenuous grasping at straws on the side of Link fans.

Originally posted by Blight
Luffy is the winner, barring strenuous grasping at straws on the side of Link fans.
True intangibility + Ether.

>=C

Whats Ether?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Whats Ether?

You soak it in a rag, breathe it in, and see stars.

AoE freeze spell.

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Someone awesome found this for me. 3:00

Originally posted by Blight
Luffy is the winner, barring strenuous grasping at straws on the side of Link fans.
No, but really.

If Luffy's counter to intangibility is that he prevents people from reducing themselves to sand or smoke, it won't really work on the magic cape.

How will he handle an AoE freeze from an opponent he can't actually strike? mmm

This doesn't even count what Link having the triforce would do. It would turn from a large area spell into "I accidentally the surface of the planet." if Link were feeling omnicidal.

I think just extending it over a large enough portion of the field to catch Luffy would suffice though. You know, since Link isn't a bad dude. Pragmatic, but not interested in mass genocide.

So, even without the triforce, what is Luffy's winning play? Just for the sake of discussion.

...Why give Link the triforce? Like...wtf?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
...Why give Link the triforce? Like...wtf?

Because it amused me.

I'm pretty evil you see.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, but really.

If Luffy's counter to intangibility is that he prevents people from reducing themselves to sand or smoke, it won't really work on the magic cape.

Intangibility is intangibility. Why do you think it wouldn't work?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
How will he handle an AoE freeze from an opponent he can't actually strike? mmm

It depends on how powerful the freeze is or how fast Link can get it off. That video you found showed one of the most powerful people in One Piece, who can casually outspeed Luffy and can casually freeze tidal waves and all the water around several islands and when pushed permenently changed an islands climate. It's not as if Luffy is weak to being frozen, thats just how powerful the guy is.

Also Luffy could probably defrost himself with Gear Second, which makes his body so hot he steams.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
This doesn't even count what Link having the triforce would do. It would turn from a large area spell into "I accidentally the surface of the planet." if Link were feeling omnicidal.

So far I've seen no evidence for how much the Triforce would amp him, or if it even would at all.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I think just extending it over a large enough portion of the field to catch Luffy would suffice though. You know, since Link isn't a bad dude. Pragmatic, but not interested in mass genocide.

You're going to need to prove that he can actually do that first.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
So, even without the triforce, what is Luffy's winning play? Just for the sake of discussion.

Without the Triforce Luffy punches his head off 0.003 seconds into the fight. I'm not convinced the fight wouldn't ebd that way with it either.

Intangibility is intangibility. Why do you think it wouldn't work?
Because OP intangibility is not true intangibility, and Luffy's counter is to prevent his enemy from disassembling into sand/smoke/whatever. This doesn't work on matter that simply is not there.

It depends on how powerful the freeze is or how fast Link can get it off. That video you found showed one of the most powerful people in One Piece
All right, neat.

can casually freeze tidal waves and all the water around several islands and when pushed permenently changed an islands climate.
Impressive.

I can't say for certain how powerful the freeze is, but if it's comparable to the ice arrows Luffy'll find himself sitting still temporarily.

So far I've seen no evidence for how much the Triforce would amp him, or if it even would at all.
Wait, you actually think this point in particular is arguable? 😐

You're going to need to prove that he can actually do that first.
So, you want me to prove to you that the triforce is more powerful than people it's stated to be more powerful than who have global feats? Wat.

Hylia could form a planetwide seal, and she was a minor goddess whose own power is explicitly less than the triforce's. The only thing about the triforce banned in this thread is it's reality warping power, preventing Link from just turning Luffy into a jack in the box. Not that this even matters because planetary level is far above Luffy. It doesn't need to be close to that to render Luffy moot.

Without the Triforce Luffy punches his head off 0.003 seconds into the fight. I'm not convinced the fight wouldn't ebd that way with it either.
Punching intangible dude = winning strategy. I suppose he'll pull off Link's cap-wait, he can't because Link is intangible. >C

And has the laser dodging feat from SSBB just in case.

Also, if Link does have the full triforce Luffy legitimately cannot put him down due to nigh-invulnerablilty even without the cape. That's not even a discussion. 😬

I'm not convinced the fight wouldn't end that way with it either.
That's because it is how it would end.

Originally posted by Blight
That's because it is how it would end.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, but really.

If Luffy's counter to intangibility is that he prevents people from reducing themselves to sand or smoke, it won't really work on the magic cape.

How will he handle an AoE freeze from an opponent he can't actually strike? mmm

This doesn't even count what Link having the triforce would do. It would turn from a large area spell into "I accidentally the surface of the planet." if Link were feeling omnicidal.

I think just extending it over a large enough portion of the field to catch Luffy would suffice though. You know, since Link isn't a bad dude. Pragmatic, but not interested in mass genocide.

So, even without the triforce, what is Luffy's winning play? Just for the sake of discussion.


Go ahead, Blight. Try your hand.

Has the freeze attack been enough to change the climate of a continent?

What has the triforce done to amp attacks exactly? Just curious, I'd need feats to go on.

You go to lengths to protect your boy, I'll give you that.

Originally posted by Blight
You go to lengths to protect your boy, I'll give you that.

One time he determined the weight of a lightning ball for Link.

Trufax.