Superman & Batman vs Ironman & Thor

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor has access to these artifacts though and it's really not hard for him to get them. Even the mundane stuff like Uru enchanted armor or weapons (such as the stuff the Mighty got during Fear Itself) isn't anything I'd consider out of the realm of possibility. I don't think Thor will bust out the Casket or Twilight Sword, but the Destroyer Armor is definitely more reasonable - if only because the armor in of itself isn't a collateral damage threat on the scale of either the Casket of Ancient Winters or Twilight Sword. Then there's stuff like Norn Stones, which are more common than any of the stuff I've mentioned and can power up people to levels beyond the norm. And that's without factoring in Tony's connection to New Asgardia as its rebuilder and strongest mortal ally.

For the record, I don't think you're biased or hate Thor, though.

Originally posted by Mindset
No argument, just spamming.

Reported.

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Says the Hank Pym Fan....

that should void most of your arguments right there..

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Nothing wrong with Hank Pym.

Originally posted by Lek Kuen
He only likes shitty characters and Hulk. And only Hulk during wank arcs

😂

Originally posted by carver9
I am but not enough to get upset with the votes.

lol no.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Flash dodged his punch and didn't expect a flick

No offence but that's more a show of superman thinking on his feet than his speed being able to keep up or catch flash

Sorry, nope.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Granted it would be hard to argue for Superman soloing using strictly post flash point feats but in the same token Thor isn't about to pull artifacts out of his ass hell Thor knows that the treasure of asgard are too dangerous to be used all willy nillly he has stated so himself. Oh i laugh at the accusation of me being biased or hating Thor 😆

I Don't think Thor needs super artifacts either the belt and shield would do.

@ PR

It would count as a speed feat if that's how superman threw punches like that, lol

But your the mod who makes the rulings and I can only speak for my own opinion on how I see it

I wonder if Iron Man can deal with Brother Eye. Both are technopaths, IIRC. And it was extremely difficult for Checkmate to do anything to Eye.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
So, you trolled, then got defensive three seperate times, asked me to leave and then laughed?

I Don't think Thor needs super artifacts either the belt and shield would do.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I wonder if Iron Man can deal with Brother Eye. Both are technopaths, IIRC. And it was extremely difficult for Checkmate to do anything to Eye.

@ice ice baby

Or I knew that no arguments could rationally be made
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Originally posted by pym-ftw
Pre flashpoint bats could take a few (3-4) against ironman imho

@ice ice baby

Or I knew that no arguments could rationally made
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Well, how do you see Tony dealing with Brother Eye?

Powerful EMP or just powerful firewalls

I view Ultron>Brother eye on technopathy imho

SHADE had all that and failed. I believe Brother Eye is run on some type of New God tech. It's connected to EVERY computer and every form of communication in the world.

Iron Man in his Extremis Armor had access to every computer and satellite in the world.

IM punches it in the eye.

It was able to resist the Ale when nothing else known could 😬

Except those people that could.

Originally posted by iceman24567
It was able to resist the Ale when nothing else known could 😬

Final Crisis? Forgot about that. Anyway, SHADE (Highly technological organization) thanks to Ray Palmer had a tough time dealing with Brother Eye in OMAC.

Originally posted by Mindset
Except those people that could.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor has access to these artifacts though and it's really not hard for him to get them. Even the mundane stuff like Uru enchanted armor or weapons (such as the stuff the Mighty got during Fear Itself) isn't anything I'd consider out of the realm of possibility. I don't think Thor will bust out the Casket or Twilight Sword, but the Destroyer Armor is definitely more reasonable - if only because the armor in of itself isn't a collateral damage threat on the scale of either the Casket of Ancient Winters or Twilight Sword. Then there's stuff like Norn Stones, which are more common than any of the stuff I've mentioned and can power up people to levels beyond the norm. And that's without factoring in Tony's connection to New Asgardia as its rebuilder and strongest mortal ally.

For the record, I don't think you're biased or hate Thor, though.

So Thor will use the Destroyer and the Norn Stones? Maybe even the Twilight Sword and the Casket? Eh? Tony doesn't seems to have anything to add to this fight it seems.

Quite extreme. I'm rather surprised that Thor wouldn't a) need the permission of Odin to use such powerful artifacts against mere mortals and b) that Thor thinks DCnU Supes and Batman are far more dangerous then Galactus and SS. Against those two he didn't use the Destroyer and the Stones 😂
If you think the Destroyer and the Stones are their only chance and hope and if they are so scared of DCnU Supes and Batman, what can I say, more power to you.

I know that a lot of events from the pre-Flashpoint Universe did happen in the DCnU, just not exactly which. So I can't give Supes and Batman enough feats to go against the Destroyer and the Stones.
Pre-Flashpoint World Finest would annihilate those two "beerbuddies" though (better Teamwork, more experience) and given the respect you show for their DCnU counterparts it's cool.

BTW has clark access to the Phantom Zone in the DCnU? It would be a cheap but easy win then. DCnU Kryptonian tech is still > Tony tech imho.

I think we can agree that superman is no mere mortal

And Thor can un-bfr himself

Batman and Iron Man - Who's Smarter contest has be on for like 6 or 7 years never been decided.

Iron Man has prep he can just go ahead and make a Kryptonie radiation suit which can take care of Superman overwhelming power he doesn't have do anything just be present and start to fight Batman. In my point of view the overall arsenal Batman has is weaker than a prepped Iron Man suit.

As for Thor taking on Superman. Well Thor's lightning and Mjonir are both magic based which is still one of Superman's weakness.