Russell Edgington vs. Link (TP)

Originally posted by BloodRain
"He flicks Link's head off." When did Russ flick someones head off?

Nerd claims run things. See, before I'd say that how they sink means they are as dense as rocks and their size would equal a rock at that size which is 10 tons. But after the True Blood car vid, I don't really need to.

Stopping a 1 ton car moving at 5mph is the same as lifting 2 tons.

Link can throw a Goron around that weighs more than 2 tons using his /arm strength/, which unless you can provide a reason that a vertical lift requires the boots..

BUT, if you want to deny it without giving a reason, again, theres also the fact that Link is capable of walking around with Iron Boots on. Iron Boots weigh as much or more than Gorons. Another strength feat above Russell.

Also this:
YouTube video
1:20.

Link can, with a single movement, push around 4 meter tall stone blocks. (180 tons)

And this:
YouTube video
1:45

Link throws around the Ball and Chain (a 1 meter ball of metal would weigh more than a ton) and knocked a room sized block of ice across the room. A room sized block of ice is obviously heavier than a 1 ton car (600 tons to be precise) so thats another strength feat above Russ.

Talking about gameplay damage like it means anything is pointless (Kratos taking damage from human mooks when he can wrestle with skyscraper tall Titans), so if you reply do me a favour and actually respond to the feats.

Link can't throw a Goron unless he has the boots on. Russell doesn't need to alter his weight but Link does. That's the difference here which the Zelda side seems to want to ignore.

Link can put the boots on but this greatly decreases his mobility. Another Russell win who is far faster than Link.

Again you're speculating on the weight while ignoring Russell's great speed advantage.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Quan answer: Speed Blitz and Russel punches his head off.

Actual answer: There isn't one.

You know the Car feat doesn't get close to outweighing the "Tornado-like" wrecking the trailer that Bill pulled. Sort of ABC logic, though 😬

Quan, answer with a yes or no; do the boots make Link stronger?

The fact of the matter is that Link's strength and durability are so far above Russell he can win this bare-handed.

The fact that simply drawing his sword kills Russell makes this possibly the most spite-ridden thread on this forum.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think he just actually poked which is in fact greater than flicking.

When did Russell poke someone's head off, then?

Link can't throw a Goron unless he has the boots on. Russell doesn't need to alter his weight but Link does. That's the difference here which the Zelda side seems to want to ignore.

It's because this is split into two separate events: stopping the Goron, and throwing the Goron. Link needs the boots for the stopping part, but not the throwing part.

Unless you think the boots make him strong enough to pick up an object?

Link can put the boots on but this greatly decreases his mobility. Another Russell win who is far faster than Link.

See, the thing is, Link doesn't have to put the boots on to fight someone who is roughly his weight. We've seen that when he sword locks Ganondorf, for example. Plus, it isn't as if he needed the boots to throw the Ball & Chain and knock Blizzeta around, either.

Again you're speculating on the weight while ignoring Russell's great speed advantage. Link's not fast enough.

And again you're ignoring Link's durability. All Link really has to do is draw his sword. He doesn't even have to hit Russell with it.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Quan, answer with a yes or no; do the boots make Link stronger?

The fact of the matter is that Link's strength and durability are so far above Russell he can win this bare-handed.

The fact that simply drawing his sword kills Russell makes this possibly the most spite-ridden thread on this forum.

Originally posted by The Scenario
When did Russell poke someone's head off, then?

It's because this is split into two separate events: stopping the Goron, and throwing the Goron. Link needs the boots for the stopping part, but not the throwing part.

Unless you think the boots make him strong enough to pick up an object?

See, the thing is, Link doesn't have to put the boots on to fight someone who is roughly his weight. We've seen that when he sword locks Ganondorf, for example. Plus, it isn't as if he needed the boots to throw the Ball & Chain and knock Blizzeta around, either.

And again you're ignoring Link's durability. All Link really has to do is draw his sword. He doesn't even have to hit Russell with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZAwFcKNs28

So Link can stop someone if only the boots make them stationary to lift them up. Russell won't be standing still and is far too fast for Link to react to.

The ball and chain show his strength being taxed to the point his mobility is all but standing there a sitting duck. Russell's too fast.

Russell kills him before he sheathes his sword.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The sword can cut through things but when has Link ever cut someone in half ? If he doesn't do so ever then it's out of character, nerd.

Russell's too fast for Link to even react but I like humoring the weak and simple.

Link can and has used his sword to kill.

He kills Russel.

Lol, did he really call someone a nerd?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think he just actually poked which is in fact greater than flicking.

Link can't throw a Goron unless he has the boots on. Russell doesn't need to alter his weight but Link does. That's the difference here which the Zelda side seems to want to ignore.

Link can put the boots on but this greatly decreases his mobility. Another Russell win who is far faster than Link.

Again you're speculating on the weight while ignoring Russell's great speed advantage.

That wasn't flicking, how dare ye make up a move.

Like I said "which unless you can provide a reason that a vertical lift requires the boots.." We see that the Boots stop him from being pushed back because physics says so, give this page a quick skim.

Iron Boots are stated to increase his weight for this exact reason. Bo even states that Link is strong enough to contend with Goron's, but that power alone wont let him win.

Unless I'm missing something, those weights will be correct. But I don't even need to give accurate figures to say Link's stronger as anyone can say it by looking:
-Lifting Goron's; A Goron is basically an 8ft tall rock. Even without maths no one can deny that rock this size will be lighter than that 1 ton car.
-Dangoro; A Goron thats basically an 11ft tall rock. Again its undeniable that a rock of this size weighs less than 1 tons.
-Iron Boots; They weigh around as much as these Gorons. Link can walk around with them on his feet.
-Pushing blocks; Stone cubes that are twice as tall as Link. We can see just from looking at them that they are much larger and will be far heavier than the car.
-Ice block; Just look at the thing. Its several times the size of the car and made of solid ice. 'Speculative math' isnt needed to admit that the ice weighs more than a ton.

Ignoring any figures and going purely by visuals and there's still no way to say that Russell half-lifting a 1 ton car is more impressive than any of the above.

Oh, and yeah the speed argument can be ignored until the strength business is out of the way. No point in doubling up right now.

I just love how Quan claims victory over the LLLC constantly and yet he is the one that keeps initiating the threads with them(except me. I do it because it amuses me).

Originally posted by quanchi112
Right here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZAwFcKNs28

Looks more like a slap or a chop to me, but cool. Thank you for the evidence. Not quite good enough to hurt Link much, but very good nonetheless.

So Link can stop someone if only the boots make them stationary to lift them up. Russell won't be standing still and is far too fast for Link to react to.

Only if they out-mass him by a significant margin, however. For people like Russell, who have basically human mass, Link wouldn't need the boots to overpower them.

The ball and chain show his strength being taxed to the point his mobility is all but standing there a sitting duck. Russell's too fast.

I think you missed the point. Link isn't going to use the Ball & Chain against Russell, it's simply a feat that illustrates that Link is much, much stronger than Russell. Link will just kill Link by drawing his sword.

Russell kills him before he sheathes his sword.

How? Russell's not strong enough to kill him, and if Ganondorf's supersonic Link would be, too

How? Russell's not strong enough to kill him, and if Ganondorf's supersonic Link would be, too

Even in just TP Ganon has better combat speed feats.

Link's arrows in TP can damage magic infused gems (IE, that thing on Fyrus' forehead), can be fired accurately for extremely long distances (IE, the inch thick-ish post at the top of Kakariko on the other side of the canyon) and are generally badass. Which is fitting since giving a class 100 a bow really should result in hilarity, but yeah.

Dorf can make himself untouchable to said arrows, they just never hit him. To say those arrows would be super-sonic (and in fact would need to be to achieve the feats they do) is an understatement. mmm The combat speed of Link and Ganondorf should actually be really high. If we were allowed to cite other games in this thread I'd point out that Russell would be like a statue relative to someone who is peers with Ganondorf. uhuh Resulting in a blitz even more brutal than the one Russell pulled on that other vampire just then.

Originally posted by NemeBro
You're going on an irrelevant tangent.

Link can and has used his sword to kill.

He kills Russel.

Fine: Link mortally wounds Russell but doesn't technically separate him.

Originally posted by BloodRain
That wasn't flicking, how dare ye make up a move.

Like I said "which unless you can provide a reason that a vertical lift requires the boots.." We see that the Boots stop him from being pushed back because physics says so, give this page a quick skim.

Iron Boots are stated to increase his weight for this exact reason. Bo even states that Link is strong enough to contend with Goron's, but that power alone wont let him win.

Unless I'm missing something, those weights will be correct. But I don't even need to give accurate figures to say Link's stronger as anyone can say it by looking:
-Lifting Goron's; A Goron is basically an 8ft tall rock. Even without maths no one can deny that rock this size will be lighter than that 1 ton car.
-Dangoro; A Goron thats basically an 11ft tall rock. Again its undeniable that a rock of this size weighs less than 1 tons.
-Iron Boots; They weigh around as much as these Gorons. Link can walk around with them on his feet.
-Pushing blocks; Stone cubes that are twice as tall as Link. We can see just from looking at them that they are much larger and will be far heavier than the car.
-Ice block; Just look at the thing. Its several times the size of the car and made of solid ice. 'Speculative math' isnt needed to admit that the ice weighs more than a ton.

Ignoring any figures and going purely by visuals and there's still no way to say that Russell half-lifting a 1 ton car is more impressive than any of the above.

Oh, and yeah the speed argument can be ignored until the strength business is out of the way. No point in doubling up right now.

A goron isn't rock he is comprised of flesh and rock like parts. That's your first mistake you don't know what he's comprised of but all you zelda fanatics are so used to acting like the goat stopper is a stud in the strength department. He isn't.

Also lifting something isn't the same thing as being effective in combat. Russell slaps heads off while Link's supposedly great strength doesn't translate over when he fights his opponents because he needs to use techniques and sword expertise mainly to rely on.

HE ISN'T STRONGER THAN THEM.

Vid of Russell smacking off the head of a character plz. Otherwise he can't ****ing do it at all.

Originally posted by The Scenario

Looks more like a slap or a chop to me, but cool. Thank you for the evidence. Not quite good enough to hurt Link much, but very good nonetheless.

Only if they out-mass him by a significant margin, however. For people like Russell, who have basically human mass, Link wouldn't need the boots to overpower them.

I think you missed the point. Link isn't going to use the Ball & Chain against Russell, it's simply a feat that illustrates that Link is much, much stronger than Russell. Link will just kill Link by drawing his sword.

How? Russell's not strong enough to kill him, and if Ganondorf's supersonic Link would be, too

Link's too slow in any event. Russell kills with blinding speed and strength.

Link isn't stronger than Russell. The foes in the game wields the ball and chain much easier than Link. Link isn't super strong in his own game he's strong enough. If Link was super strong he wouldn't need to rely on swordplay and gear now would he ?

Link is strong enough but at no point in the game is he too strong for his foes. You zelda fans want everyone in zelda to be super strong which is quite frankly ridiculous for any reasonable person to swallow that a guy needs the proper technique to stop a charging goat.

Russell kills him before he draws his sword. Russell is far too fast for Link to even draw.

How isn't Russell strong enough to kill him ? Far less can hurt Link and unlike Link Russell has shown himself to be much stronger than his foes.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Vid of Russell smacking off the head of a character plz. Otherwise he can't ****ing do it at all.

That was a blow to the head, not a smack. Russell can't smack heads off yay.

On the other hand, Link will cut Russell and he'll explode into pixels yay.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
That was a blow to the head, not a smack. Russell can't smack heads off yay.

On the other hand, Link will cut Russell and he'll explode into pixels yay.

I post proof while the zelda brigade just make up claims.