Current Gen Console Discussions (PS5, Xbox Series X, Switch (Pro?) OFFICIAL THREAD

Started by FistOfThe North134 pages

PlayStation 4 and Xbox One box art revealed.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/playstation-4-xbox-one-box-art-revealed/38186.html

Oh great, now the PS4 box art is nicer as well, goddamn it Microsoft!

Notice how the PS4 box has a big 500 GB's on it. I wonder if that means there is going to be a cheaper or more expensive option as well.

I doubt it will even be 500 GB.

Originally posted by Kazenji
I doubt it will even be 500 GB.

Why?

It will probably be 440 or something like because of the OS and UI.

Originally posted by Smasandian
It will probably be 440 or something like because of the OS and UI.

Oh right, and the calculation of GB, sure. I thought he meant it would not be what is generally referred to as 500GB drive.

I've got the 160 GB PS3 and its actually 140 GB.

Originally posted by Kazenji
I've got the 160 GB PS3 and its actually 140 GB.

Okay, yeah, that will likely be the case with everything you get though including the Xbox One. The 64GB Surface Pro for example has actually only 24GB of free space when you get it. It's pretty much standard in the industry that the OS and preinstalled software isn't counted. Additionally they tend to calculate the numbers with Base 10 in marketing material and Base 2 on the OS...

Even stand alone desktops from manufacturers do it. Even DIY PC dudes have to install the OS on the drive.

Basically anything with an advertised size will be in the same situation.

I'm wondering if Sony will drastically improve the UI on the PS4 considering it's a piece of shit. The 360 automatically saw that I had a wired connection and signed me in. The PS3 was like, "oh you have to find the networking menu, which is hiding on the system menu and then recreate the connection....." It's something small but the UI still sucks.

Haha, I know that. Took me a while to realize my PS3 had wi-fi (used a cable the whole time).

Cable is always better.

Before I realized the area where my consoles are seems to be a black hole for wi-fi, I got an extender. The 360 was super simple to setup. You clicked on the SSID and then entered password. It went through a test and done.

For the PS3, I had two options. Easy or custom. I choose Easy. Picked the SSID, entered in password, it couldn't connect. Went online is it basically says, "don't use Easy, choose custom." Went through every option (using automatic) and it finally worked 50 percent of the time.

Then I decided the extender wasn't fast enough and went with powerline adapters. Hooked up the cables, 360 worked right at startup. The PS3 did what I said in the previous post.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7533-PS4-Doing-Nothing-Meaning-Everything

Jim's description of PS4 makes me think it's a small light in a dark and dreary world.

But really I love Sony for being so freaking direct. That was awesome.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Notice how the PS4 box has a big 500 GB's on it. I wonder if that means there is going to be a cheaper or more expensive option as well.

It also says black... I want a red PS4

Originally posted by Kazenji
I doubt it will even be 500 GB.

http://www.exophase.com/60285/knack-crash-reveals-new-ps4-details/

423Gb, close to that of a PS3 with a 500Gb HDD

Originally posted by Smasandian
Either they changed their minds or it was a simple misunderstanding but if you get banned from XBOX Live, you don't lose access to your games on the XBOX One.

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/16/banned-xbox-one-accounts-will-retain-access-to-purchased-games/

They seriously need to unify their message across all outlets. The PR blunder is already big as it is.

anyways:

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/PS4-Games-E3-Ran-PS4-Dev-Hardware-High-End-PCs-56752.html

So it appears that there's now a big fallout over the whole pageantry of E3's glitz and glamor. So earlier today we ran an article about the Xbox One games at E3 actually running on high-end PC hardware. Well, a few of Sony's first and second party developers have stepped forward to comment how Sony wasn't all about smoke and mirrors...the games were running on actual PS4 development hardware.

The dev kits for the PS4 are apparently a lot more complete than what Microsoft has to offer for the Xbox One, as PlayStation Lifestyle caught comments from various developers working on games for the PS4 who were also attending E3, and The Witness' Jonathan Blow Tweeted that...

“It is not true as the article says that “all E3 demos run on hi-end PCs”... The Witness was running on PS4 dev hardware, and it looked to me like all the other PS4 games were running on dev kits as well.”

Dev hardware is the hardware that will be in the final retail box, but in a less consumer-oriented package.

All the indies I know were running on the PS4.

We worked very hard to get our game running on the actual PS4 hardware and operating system in time for the show. As did many other devs. That is kind of crazy considering consoles are supposed to be on the shelves with these games in 5-6 months.

During Microsoft’s press show I was impressed by how good the games looked given the console’s specs. But if they weren’t running on those specs then it becomes pretty questionable.

I actually don’t want XB1 to fail because we need competition to keep things healthy.

Well, I stand corrected. Bravo to you for not pulling an Aliens: Colonial Marines.

Blow wasn't the only one who chimed in on the E3 shenanigans, though. Sucker Punch's Jason Connell corroborated Blow's statements, saying “Yup, we were definitely on a dev kit. [For inFamous: Second Son]”

Exophase also has a neat article explaining how the PS4's exclusive Knack crashed to the system's OS and not Windows 7 running on a high-end Nvidia GPU.

Just to clarify this for people who aren't entirely tech savvy: Development kits are basically a set of programming and design tools to help developers make a game run for the designated platform. It contains instruction sets and code so that developers have an idea of how to fine-tune and optimize the game for the console's hardware. Usually early development kits, shortened to dev kits, have slightly higher or similar specs to the final hardware.

Now, the reason there's a lot of controversy over the news about the Xbox One games running on high-end PCs with a Windows 7 OS is because first of all, the Xbox One's core OS is based on Windows 8 and second of all, the CPU/GPU APU combination for the final hardware set is being provided by AMD, hence all the butthurt from Nvidia in their public statements knocking the consoles [via Computerworld]. The hardware at E3 were running high-end Nvidia GPUs. A bit of a far-cry from actual dev kits given that the instruction sets would be all wrong for optimizing a game for hardware that won't even be present in a retail SKU.

Anyway, this is just more free marketing buzz for Sony. And honestly, it's not like at this point we're trying to go out of our way to dig the grave deeper for the Xbox One...it was just the haphazard situation of real-life information working against Microsoft and the Xbox One.

Sorry for foiling your plans!

Oh yeah, and Windows 8 still loves you Microsoft...even if you prefer Windows 7.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Even stand alone desktops from manufacturers do it. Even DIY PC dudes have to install the OS on the drive.

Basically anything with an advertised size will be in the same situation.

I'm wondering if Sony will drastically improve the UI on the PS4 considering it's a piece of shit. The 360 automatically saw that I had a wired connection and signed me in. The PS3 was like, "oh you have to find the networking menu, which is hiding on the system menu and then recreate the connection....." It's something small but the UI still sucks.

Never really had a problem with the PS3's UI and also i own a PSP, They're pretty much the same.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Video-Surfaces-Microsoft-Employee-Promoting-Xbox-One-Wii-U-Best-Buy-Event-56787.html

Not sure if Nintendo hired the guy or if he really is from Microsoft. Seriously, with everything that's been happening, I can believe either one.

Great reads in this thread. I especially liked SDJ's quote about dev kits.

Glad to see Microsoft isn't going to stick to the "lose access to your games" thing. Now they just need to backtrack on the DRM checkin shit and the used games shit.

Mark Cerny says the PS4 is 10x the power of the PS3. Phil Spencer says the X-Box One is 3x the power of the 360.

YouTube video

YouTube video

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Mark Cerny says the PS4 is 10x the power of the PS3. Phil Spencer says the X-Box One is 3x the power of the 360.

YouTube video

YouTube video

Well, that's pretty meaningless though.