Originally posted by VG_Addict
What can Nintendo do to gain more fans? Their fanbase is dwindling.
Wii u failing =/= people not liking nintendo. 3ds says otherwise.
Just the wii u doesn't have solid games outside of nintendo ones, was too complicated for 3rd party support outside of Platinum and just didn't latch on with people. That's all it is, gamers only care about the games so the moment great libraries come out any so called dislike would go away.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
They need to man up and compete with Sony and Microsoft hardware wise. Screw the gimmicks. They have them beat in 1st party support/exclusives. They only need 3rd party support, but this will never happen as long as they continue to make lesser machines.Its very simple if you ask me.
If Nintendo had third party support combined with their great first party games like they did in the NES/SNES eras, they'd be unstoppable.
I mean, the NES and SNES both had MASSIVE libraries.
Originally posted by VG_AddictExactly. I don't understand why they fail to realize this. Sure the GC was a fail, but god damn that shit is history. They should have capitlized on the Wii's gigantic success. Then again the Wii is probably the problem.
If Nintendo had third party support combined with their great first party games like they did in the NES/SNES eras, they'd be unstoppable.I mean, the NES and SNES both had MASSIVE libraries.
I think it's a bit more complicated then just saying, "more 3rd party titles = domination".
Times have changed. Publishers will release a game on all three platforms so it would come down to hardware, software and extras. They would need to release a competing console, massively improve their online presence and have all the extras that both current gen consoles have.
Also, while their 1st party titles are quality, would they alone sell enough consoles to equal MS and Sony. I don't think so. I think core gamers (the bread and butter of sales) are not enticed by Nintendo's offerings anymore. They would need to start new franchises that can compete with MS and Sony mature 1st party titles.
So in the end, it would be a massive amount of work to get to the point of "unstoppable".
Also, PC gaming is considered normal unlike 20 years ago.
VG, you think too much in extremes. It's either they fail and should stop making consoles or they will blow everyone out the water. They simply need to stay profitable in the console market that along with their always very successful handheld department and the possible success of the third business they are trying would be more than enough to have them set.
Originally posted by SmasandianIt will be more complicated than that, but IMHO games are all that matter. The PS3 had many problems with their network and their ports. That didn't stop them from getting up to the 360's lvl and fighting it toe to toe after a really shitty start.
I think it's a bit more complicated then just saying, "more 3rd party titles = domination".Times have changed. Publishers will release a game on all three platforms so it would come down to hardware, software and extras. They would need to release a competing console, massively improve their online presence and have all the extras that both current gen consoles have.
Also, while their 1st party titles are quality, would they alone sell enough consoles to equal MS and Sony. I don't think so. I think core gamers (the bread and butter of sales) are not enticed by Nintendo's offerings anymore. They would need to start new franchises that can compete with MS and Sony mature 1st party titles.
So in the end, it would be a massive amount of work to get to the point of "unstoppable".
Also, PC gaming is considered normal unlike 20 years ago.
The thing is their first party games combined with actual even-field 3rd party support would be more than enough to sway the tide in their favor. Unstoppable is an exaggeration though lol.
If they really want to be king they will need a good network and the specs to contend with Sony and MS. Problem is they are so FKN lazy *Sigh*
It has been bad hardware decisions. These decisions were responsible for the drop in 3rd party development. It all started with Nintendo's decision to stay with cartridges when Sega and Sony went the CD route. They started losing Capcom, Square and Konami among others. Then they went with the lame GC mini-discs and lack of DVD player support(back then it was important) which continued the trend of developers dropping from Nintendo. The Wii while a success only further increased the gap between Nintendo's hardware and the competition. The history is there. History says lack of 3rd party support has been the problem for over 15 years.
Came across this supposed quote from Capcom...
We'd like to steer away from making the next game such that skilled players will win, but unskilled players will lose almost instantaneously," Tsujimoto said..As a means to achieve that (prevent unskilled players from losing instantaneously), Capcom is looking into possibly implementing some kind of pay-for-advantage system in Street Fighter 5 that will allow new players to cover for their lack of skill in matches.
But really...
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"...possibly implementing some kind of pay-for-advantage system in Street Fighter 5 that will allow new players to cover for their lack of skill in matches."
So they're going to sell boosts for n00bs to nerf the opposing player who actually spent time and effort training his ass to improve his skills...
Win/Win for cheaters and the greedy ****ers in Capcom.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Came across this supposed quote from Capcom...Getting better at a game confirmed for DLC, skill not required.
But really...
That's ****ed up. I am not that good a player of the Capcom fighting games (I can just about get through arcade), but i'd never want to pay to get better, when I could just keep practising.
Originally posted by Smasandian
Also, while their 1st party titles are quality, would they alone sell enough consoles to equal MS and Sony. I don't think so. I think core gamers (the bread and butter of sales) are not enticed by Nintendo's offerings anymore. They would need to start new franchises that can compete with MS and Sony mature 1st party titles.
Gotta disagree with this. Games like Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros appeal just as much if not more to the core gamer than pretty much any Sony/Microsoft franchise not named Halo.
With that said, if Nintendo does want to compete with Microsoft and Sony they would need to work on shedding their "kiddie" image (along of course with creating a system that can actually compete with them).
Really the wii u failure is also a marketing issue and them making some dumb early decisions with games. An example would be them not holding off on skyward sword to make it a wii u launch game, it already has HD textures in the code and would have helped their initial launch like twilight princess did.