Breaking Bad

Started by TheGodKiller31 pages

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'm vague on some of those details (because I've only seen each episode once and had no "forum" to discuss my impressions), but wasn't it Walt that sicced Hank on Gus to take the heat off himself?

With regards to the Salamanca twins? Nope, that was all Gus, pulling off that move by himself to get the twin towers of doom away from his cook, and giving Hank that anonymous tip to ensure that they got killed in the process of exacting vengeance fro Tuco's death.

Walt never had anything to do with any of that sh1t apart from giving Gus a real fake gesture of gratitude when Gus came to Hank's hospital with that free chicken meal for the entire DEA.

If you meant something else, then I doubt that Walt was the one did it. In fact, based on how he faked his accident when they were taking a drive to the Laundry, Walt was actually trying to prevent Hank from uncovering the truth about Gus. If by "sicced" you mean the warning phonecall he gave to Skyler to get Hank the rest of the family under instant security, no, that didn't implicate Gus in a direct manner either.

Originally posted by BackFire
It began as a method to help his family, but his motivation eventually became greed.

I always felt like, as bad as he got, there was still a part of him that was genuinely doing it to help his family too. Sure, he became corrupt to an extent, but I still feel like it was a twist, tbh.

Originally posted by ares834
That wasn't a twist. It's been evident for awhile that he was no longer doing this for his family.

I don't agree, like I said above.

I'm honestly baffled you could have believed that. Walt even claims he is not in the money business but rather "in the empire business."

Originally posted by ares834
I'm honestly baffled you could have believed that. Walt even claims he is not in the money business but rather "in the empire business."

"I am the one who knocks....mother ****er."

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Originally posted by ares834
I'm honestly baffled you could have believed that. Walt even claims he is not in the money business but rather "in the empire business."

I believed he was doing it for more than one reason; that's all.

Originally posted by ares834
That wasn't a twist. It's been evident for awhile that he was no longer doing this for his family.

It wasn't just greed:

It was the thrill of the ride.
It invigorated him and made him whole and alive.

This was made clear by his hardly rising to the occasion and feeling emasculated, powerless and deadened by his life in the early eps.

The once his indulged the dark side, he then had the confidence to take Skylar roughly by the tradesman's entrance/ in the car, wherever..

Science, bi*ches.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The once his indulged the dark side, he then had the confidence to take Skylar roughly by the tradesman's entrance/ in the car, wherever..

Science, bi*ches.

As Skyler put it, he was using her as a frustration and/or anger outlet and she called him out on it when they were in the kitchen. It wasn't just a confidence thing.

Yes. Heisenberg characteristics. Walt wrapped up his rage and surpressed it.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yes. Heisenberg characteristics. Walt wrapped up his rage and surpressed it.

I get the feeling I missed a bit of that exchange between Skyler and Walt: I was ill when I was watching those 3-4 episodes (stayed home and watched Breaking Bad all day).

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The once his indulged the dark side, he then had the confidence to take Skylar roughly by the tradesman's entrance/ in the car, wherever..

I thought that had something to do with the early side-effects of his cancer treatment?

Originally posted by Major_Lexington
Anyone else notice Walt is dressed very similarly in the Season 1 Pilot and in the Season 5 Finale?

The main thing to notice would be that he had a fine patch of hair on his head in both instances.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Lol, that wasn't luck. That was him improvising by playing on Jack's ego and calling out how he didn't live upto his end of the deal to kill Jesse. He was willing to go to jail since it was Hank who caught him. Them arriving to kill Hank and steal all his money was a case of bad fortune, far from being good luck as you claim.

I disagree. Walt was one of the smartest men on the show, and the way he pulled off escapades like destroying Fring's laptop and stealing all that methylamine off the train were proof that 99% of his success was attributable to sheer genius and considerable hard work.

It was luck as he was completely at his mercy. Again, Jesse flat out said he is smart and lucky. Quit making up excuses just because he destroyed Fring despite all his advantages over facing just Walt. Luck saved him from incarceration. Walt did not want it but he had a knack for avoiding trouble even outside his own control

Walt was the most effective on the show. Fring was more well disciplined but went down to Walt.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yes. Heisenberg characteristics. Walt wrapped up his rage and surpressed it.

Like Bruce Banner to the Hulk.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I get the feeling I missed a bit of that exchange between Skyler and Walt: I was ill when I was watching those 3-4 episodes (stayed home and watched Breaking Bad all day).

Did you also miss the thing with the carwash Eyebrows guy and the bullys in the store...? All thematically linked.

Originally posted by Robtard
Like Bruce Banner to the Hulk.

Absolutely. All rage causing incidents noted stored and saved in the rage bank to be unleashed upon the denizens of Alberquerque.

And both absorbed radiation on screen. Hmmmmmmmm. 😕

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Did you also miss the thing with the carwash Eyebrows guy and the bullys in the store...? All thematically linked.

No, I saw those. In fact, the bullies in the store scene was awesome. Brought back memories of 80s movies. 😄

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was luck as he was completely at his mercy. Again, Jesse flat out said he is smart and lucky. Quit making up excuses just because he destroyed Fring despite all his advantages over facing just Walt. Luck saved him from incarceration. Walt did not want it but he had a knack for avoiding trouble even outside his own control

Walt was the most effective on the show. Fring was more well disciplined but went down to Walt.


There was no luck involved. Everything that happened during his final confrontation with the Neonazis was a calculated move, except maybe for the fact that Jesse was their prisoner and not partner as Walt had originally thought. It didn't make any difference though as all the Aryans ended up dead either way. You're the type of guy who blindly sticks by one opinion even when proven wrong, and you've done this countless times over and over before as well. How many times will you showcase this stubborn inability to accept and argue based on facts?

Lol, what does Walt's victory over Fring have anything to do with his showdown with the Aryans? With Fring, Gillian openly admitted that it was a lucky win, otherwise everything else we've seen in the show clearly involved Walt's technical knowhow and scientific precision. Luck only ever played a minor role in his success. As mentioned before, it was 99% genius and hard work.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
There was no luck involved. Everything that happened during his final confrontation with the Neonazis was a calculated move, except maybe for the fact that Jesse was their prisoner and not partner as Walt had originally thought.

Oh, snap. I missed that. When did Walt say/speculate that Jesse was their partner (in the last episode)?

Twice:

Walt said that to Jack immediately before Jesse was brought out from his cell.

It was also very clearly on his mind when he learned from Badger and Skinny Pete that the blue was still in production (and angrily said "Jesse!!!!"in reaction to the realisation)...and that it was "choice".

Jack took such offense to that, that's reaction to a rat, lowest of the low.