Rank then in reflex speed

Started by Philosophía11 pages

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not when Thor literally grabbed him by his ankle after stating that and showed the reflexes to block an ambush from Wolverine with Mjolnir.
Why would any of that prove that Wolverine is not faster than him?

Even if another guy is faster than me, it doesn't mean I can't block or tag him - that's asinine.

Originally posted by Galan007
Reported for saying that I'm slower than Jake. sneer

Women prefer guys that last though. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by PhilosophÃ_a
Why would any of that prove that Wolverine is not faster than him?

I think it's a misconception in terms of travel speed and reaction.

Hulk can certainly cross a greater distance in less time than Spider-man, but that doesn't mean that he consistently react faster. Same goes for Thor and Wolverine.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
You have to be able to determine how much precog factors into that though
It's pre-cog that makes Spidey #1 on the list.

Also it is a fallacy to assume that hitting a character means you have faster reflexes than them. So showings of Hulk tagging Spidey doesn't mean Hulk has faster reflexes than Spidey.

So in another thread, would Odin have better reflex speeds than Flash?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So in another thread, would Odin have better reflex speeds than Flash?

Now you've done it.

Originally posted by h1a8
lol sorry, I meant he has infinite reflexes (division by 0 is a form of infinity)

According to your statements Spider-Man takes forever to respond to a threat once his SS has warned him about it . Based on this he shouldn't even be included in this thread since he's too slow(according to you) in comparison to others

Sam , you have my permission to slap him . Slap him with your sickness .

Originally posted by h1a8
It's pre-cog that makes Spidey #1 on the list.

Say someone points a gun at you, and tells you he's about to pull the trigger.

You can see it coming. You should have no problem dodging it, right?

Spidey's precog only gives him warning. Actually dodging wall to wall bulletS.. That's the reflex/speed feat. Not too many can match him in that category.

Originally posted by cdtm
Say someone points a gun at you, and tells you he's about to pull the trigger.

You can see it coming. You should have no problem dodging it, right?

Spidey's precog only gives him warning. Actually dodging wall to wall bullet[b]S.. That's the reflex/speed feat. Not too many can match him in that category. [/B]

Pretty much. Against Bricks, Spiderman have some of the best combat speed fts out there.

The Hulk gets the short end of the stick against peak-superman agility which is silly in my book.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
You have to be able to determine how much precog factors into that though
It helps but lack of it wont change much. Spider-man lost his ss recently in Slott's run, it only lasted for a couple of months but gave a pretty good idea how much of a factor ss is. Took him some time to get used to not having it (even got shot at first) but eventually adapted. Dodged machinegun fire, explosions point blank range, ran circles around Batroc, Scorpion and Avengers Academy etc

Originally posted by SamZED
It helps but lack of it wont change much. Spider-man lost his ss recently in Slott's run, it only lasted for a couple of months but gave a pretty good idea how much of a factor ss is. Took him some time to get used to not having it (even got shot at first) but eventually adapted. Dodged machinegun fire, explosions point blank range, ran circles around Batroc, Scorpion and Avengers Academy etc

Didn't his ss return under Hickman's recent run(about to finish in late December this year) ?

He got it back during Spider Island story.

My favorite kinda thread, especially after weeks of computer downtime.

tier 1:
Gladiator

tier 2 or just sub-tier 1:
Surfer

tier 3:
Namor

Tier 4:
Spiderman
Captain America

Tier 5:
Thor
Hulk
Thing

The gap between tiers gets bigger as you go up. Tier 4 to Tier 5 is like...the difference between RJJ and a lesser boxer; A few hits landed for dozens taken.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
My favorite kinda thread, especially after weeks of computer downtime.

tier 1:
Gladiator

tier 2 or just sub-tier 1:
Surfer

tier 3:
Namor

Tier 4:
Spiderman
Captain America

Tier 5:
Thor
Hulk
Thing

The gap between tiers gets bigger as you go up. Tier 4 to Tier 5 is like...the difference between RJJ and a lesser boxer; A few hits landed for dozens taken.

Why you put Namor above Spiderman, Thor, etc ?

Originally posted by h1a8
His reaction time to [b]DANGER is infinite because he responds before the threat is even initialized, not after. Who cares about anything else? This thread is about reflex time, not speed. If Spidey had Superman's speed along with the SS then not even Superman can hit him.

What you don't know is that the SS is pre-cog and Spidey will move before the ball is thrown. But Spidey will get hit by Superman's fastball simply because Superman will adjust to Spidey's new position in early swing. Thus he is a smart attack. Lasers (dumb attacks) have been dodged by Spidey before they were fired. Lasers don't adjust while or even after being fired as they fire instantaneously (no swinging motion). To Superman throwing a ball is not instantaneous and thus his throwing motion can be adjusted in mid swing. [/B]

Superman wouldn't need to adjust his aim to hit Spider-man. Clark is so fast that he would clock Spider-man LONG before Parker even thought about reacting to the warning his Spider-Sense afforded him. That's what this thread is about. Who's reaction time will afford them the largest leeway in dodging or avoiding an attack... and the answer isn't Spider-man. Even with the handicap his Spider-Sense gives him Parker doesn't have the fastest reflexes of the characters listed in this thread.

Reflexes are a two-part process: perception and reaction. With spider-sense, Spider-Man may perceive something sooner than Superman does, but by the time his spider-motor system reacts, Superman has also seen what's coming, and with his super-motor system has already responded.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Why you put Namor above Spiderman, Thor, etc ?

General reaction feats on par with what you'd see from street levelers, like they have, but also things above that, like very complex tasks like molding statues or what not within a panel or two.

That's one I'm not set in stone for though.

Originally posted by cdtm
Say someone points a gun at you, and tells you he's about to pull the trigger.

You can see it coming. You should have no problem dodging it, right?

Spidey's precog only gives him warning. Actually dodging wall to wall bullet[b]S.. That's the reflex/speed feat. Not too many can match him in that category. [/B]


The warning is still pre cog. That is why he can dodge lasers. If it wasn't then he wouldn't be able to dodge lasers. Have all the members on the list stand in a horizontal line. Fire a laser beam at each member at the same time. The first to respond is the winner. Spidey will be first to act thus he is the winner.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Superman wouldn't need to adjust his aim to hit Spider-man. Clark is so fast that he would clock Spider-man LONG before Parker even thought about reacting to the warning his Spider-Sense afforded him. That's what this thread is about. Who's reaction time will afford them the largest leeway in dodging or avoiding an attack... and the answer isn't Spider-man. Even with the handicap his Spider-Sense gives him Parker doesn't have the fastest reflexes of the characters listed in this thread.

False, Spidey can move a good distance in 1 sec. If his SS gives him a 1 sec head start then he would be out of the way before Superman even starts his motion. If Spidey moves AFTER Superman starts his motion then he will get hit.
Spidey dodges lasers ONLY because he moves out of the way BEFORE they are initialized.

Originally posted by h1a8
False, Spidey can move a good distance in 1 sec. If his SS gives him a 1 sec head start then he would be out of the way before Superman even starts his motion. If Spidey moves AFTER Superman starts his motion then he will get hit.
Spidey dodges lasers ONLY because he moves out of the way BEFORE they are initialized.