Wolverine vs Samurai Jack

After reading every last post in this thread:

Jack wins 10 out of 10 times and with no effort.

Jack's high end speed feats (running) are calculated at a bit over 9000 kmh. Jack, in base form, was able to cut an asteroid 3 times larger than the earth, in half, with his sword. Also, Jack has psychic powers on par with the Living Tribunal.

Also, Wolverine's best feat is eating 3 totinos for breakfast with no antacid while Jack eats an entire pizza as a midnight snack (which, by the way, even though it is digirno, jack makes it delivery, anyway, by throwing it around the world like a frisbee and catching the corner of the pizza box with the tip of his urethral opening).

Lastly, Jack can drive a tad over 9000 miles on a single gallon of gas in an H2 Hummer whereas Wolverine can barely get a mile out of an entire 15 gallon tank of gas on a bicycle that's double power assisted with: a .25hp 2 cycle engine and a Kenyan that just had a Redbull.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The velocity of a machine gun round is about 1000m/s give or take depending on the model (for convenience and clarity we will ignore the fact that Orphan Maker charges his rounds with energy for a railgun esq effect). Trance was two meters from Orphan Maker, with Wolverine somewhere in the middle. It would have taken .002 seconds for the bullets to reach Trance after leaving leaving the barrel of the gun. Wolverine reacted [b]after the bullets left the barrel, and got to the target first, which means his reaction time was significantly faster than .002 seconds in this specific example.

Unlike bullet blocking, Wolverine had to have been faster than the bullets to accomplish the feat in question, where as blocking bullets allows for the possibility of merely reading the shooter, calculating the trajectory and positioning the sword to intercept the trajectory before the bullet is actually fired. In that sense your baseball comparison is apt, because it's more about timing and reading the pitch then it is speed, or else guys who swing 75mph bats would never hit a 100mph fast ball. [/B]

Dude, blocking machine gun fire with a katana is an insanely high feat of speed and perception. It's not like every bullet follows exactly the same path where one could "read the shooter" before the first round is fired and adjust accordingly. Jack would have been making millions of calculations per second while moving his hand/sword at ludicrous speeds to block machine gun burst.

Originally posted by Robtard
Dude, blocking machine gun fire with a katana is an insanely high feat of speed and perception. It's not like every bullet follows exactly the same path where one could "read the shooter" before the first round is fired and adjust accordingly. Jack would have been making millions of calculations per second while moving his hand/sword at ludicrous speeds to block machine gun burst.

Millions of calculations a second? I think you might have over estimated the rpm that a machine gun fires. Anyway, he just needs to get the trajectory of the first bullet. From there its just rapidly oscillating to cover the spread. That's why some of those shuriken were getting passed his guard even though they are slower than bullets. The hit box was larger than he could cover.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Millions of calculations a second? I think you might have over estimated the rpm that a machine gun fires. Anyway, he just needs to get the trajectory of the first bullet. From there its just rapidly oscillating to cover the spread. That's why some of those shuriken were getting passed his guard even though they are slower than bullets. The hit box was larger than he could cover.

Even if we say it's just a single slightly repressed AK47, that's 575 RPM, or 9.58 bullets per second. That's 9 bullets he needs to adjust and react to every second. Now multiply that by 2 gunmen, 3 gunmen and faster guns etc. Millions.

The trajectory of the second bullet will not be the same as the first, as the third wouldn't be the same as the first or second etc. Granted, it could only be off by less than an inch, he'd still need to adjust, considering he's blocking with a katana and not something like a shield.

"From there its just rapidly oscillating to cover the spread" 😐 Make it seems like it's something simple, the hand speed alone would be astonishing, let alone perception of each bullet. Don't use lowballs, all characters have them.

Originally posted by Robtard
Even if we say it's just a single slightly repressed AK47, that's 575 RPM, or 9.58 bullets per second. That's 9 bullets he needs to adjust and react to every second. Now multiply that by 2 gunmen, 3 gunmen and faster guns etc. Millions.

The trajectory of the second bullet will not be the same as the first, as the third wouldn't be the same as the first or second etc. Granted, it could only be off by less than an inch, he'd still need to adjust, considering he's blocking with a katana and not something like a shield.

"From there its just rapidly oscillating to cover the spread" 😐 Make it seems like it's something simple, the hand speed alone would be astonishing, let alone perception of each bullet. Don't use lowballs, all characters have them.

I know you don't frequent the comic versus form that often, but what we are talking about is pretty run of the mill street level canon. Virtually every character who wields a sword has blocked machine gun fire, and as a rule we don't look at it the same as something like Rogue catching each individually bullet fired at her from multiple sources with ease. It's more or less lumped together with aim dodging, unless something about the presentation of the feat is unique. Once the trajectory of the initial bullet is discerned... it's pretty much just an unconscious rapid fanning effect that takes care of the rest.

I don't think that is a low ball, merely a highlight of the limitations of Jack's blocking abilities. I've been careful trying to not to bring up low ball examples, and trust me, in all the episodes I've watched in the last couple of days to fact check the claims Jack supports of made, I've seen a lot. He is almost as inconsistent as the Powerpuff Girls.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I know you don't frequent the comic versus form that often, but what we are talking about is pretty run of the mill street level canon. Virtually every character who wields a sword has blocked machine gun fire, and as a rule we don't look at it the same as something like Rogue catching each individually bullet fired at her from multiple sources with ease. It's more or less lumped together with aim dodging, unless something about the presentation of the feat is unique. Once the trajectory of the initial bullet is discerned... it's pretty much just an unconscious rapid fanning effect that takes care of the rest.

I don't think that is a low ball, merely a highlight of the limitations of Jack's blocking abilities. I've been careful trying to not to bring up low ball examples, and trust me, in all the episodes I've watched in the last couple of days to fact check the claims Jack supports of made, I've seen a lot. He is almost as inconsistent as the Powerpuff Girls.

Someone doing something greater (Rogue's feat) doesn't make a great feat shit in of itself.

It is indeed a lowball. Wolverine's been knocked out by guys who aren't a 5th of Jack's power, yet he's also taken hits from The Hulk and been relatively alright. Yet we go with his Hulk tanking feats and not the lows.

Originally posted by Robtard
Someone doing something greater (Rogue's feat) doesn't make a great feat shit in of itself.

It is indeed a lowball. Wolverine's been knocked out by guys who aren't a 5th of Jack's power, yet he's also taken hits from The Hulk and been relatively alright. Yet we go with his Hulk tanking feats and not the lows.

It's not shit, just common place. If everyone could run the 100 dash in 9 seconds... no one would care.

Still don't think it's a low ball, the rational behind why it happened doesn't contract anything. Jack's been tagged routinely by much slower things that shuriken, so just let me know when you want to see me low ball and I'll be happy to oblige.

Cite any example of Wolverine being koed by a character with a fifth of Jack's strength, and I'll explain to you the context that allowed such a thing to happen in the first place.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's not shit, just common place. If everyone could run the 100 dash in 9 seconds... no one would care.

Still don't think it's a low ball, the rational behind why it happened doesn't contract anything. Jack's been tagged routinely by much slower things that shuriken, so just let me know when you want to see me low ball and I'll be happy to oblige.

Cite any example of Wolverine being koed by a character with a fifth of Jack's strength, and I'll explain to you the context that allowed such a thing to happen in the first place.

Everyone can't though, even in comics.

Disagree.

Spock dropped his ass in the X-Men/Star Trek crossover. Spock, while a bad-ass in the comics has absolutely nothing on Jack. Mr. X dropped him too, iirc and X is no where near as physically strong as Jack. A guy who can shrug off Hulk's hits shouldn't be dropping to Spock or X, he'd be tanking and smiling.

Originally posted by Robtard
Everyone can't though, even in comics.

Disagree.

Spock dropped his ass in the X-Men/Star Trek crossover. Spock, while a bad-ass in the comics has absolutely nothing on Jack. Mr. X dropped him too, iirc and X is no where near as physically strong as Jack. A guy who can shrug off Hulk's hits shouldn't be dropping to Spock or X, he'd be tanking and smiling.

True, but almost every character with some degree of martial arts skill can.

X-Men/Star Trek is non canon and completely irrelevant. If we are including non canon examples, Wolverine can catch sniper rounds in between is thumb and index fingers.

Mr. X beat Wolverine a couple hours after Wolverine fought a small army, and X's elite underlings, one of which was possessed by the spirit of Ogun who was skilled enough to injure Colossus with pressure points... and most of all it was PIS to hype a new villain.

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If "PIS" is the end all to a Vs match, it can work against Wolverine's greatest achievements to. He healed from a skeleton in under a minute. PIS. He punched a car into the air. PIS. etc ad vomitum

I noticed my post was ignored.

None of the Wolvie Fanboys dare touch the inexorable truths in my post. 😐

With Wolverine's healing factor, a couple hours should be more than enough time to recover from fighting any size army.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I know you don't frequent the comic versus form that often, but what we are talking about is pretty run of the mill street level canon. Virtually every character who wields a sword has blocked machine gun fire, and as a rule we don't look at it the same as something like Rogue catching each individually bullet fired at her from multiple sources with ease. It's more or less lumped together with aim dodging, unless something about the presentation of the feat is unique. Once the trajectory of the initial bullet is discerned... it's pretty much just an unconscious rapid fanning effect that takes care of the rest.

I don't think that is a low ball, merely a highlight of the limitations of Jack's blocking abilities. I've been careful trying to not to bring up low ball examples, and trust me, in all the episodes I've watched in the last couple of days to fact check the claims Jack supports of made, I've seen a lot. He is almost as inconsistent as the Powerpuff Girls.

What would be Wolverine's best multiple-blocking feat or analogues? The running and slashing feats, even when they display incredible speeds don't really add much to the reflexes since Wolverine just have to move once and then strike at a single target.

Originally posted by dadudemon
After reading every last post in this thread:

Jack wins 10 out of 10 times and with no effort.

Jack's high end speed feats (running) are calculated at a bit over 9000 kmh. Jack, in base form, was able to cut an asteroid 3 times larger than the earth, in half, with his sword. Also, Jack has psychic powers on par with the Living Tribunal.

Also, Wolverine's best feat is eating 3 totinos for breakfast with no antacid while Jack eats an entire pizza as a midnight snack (which, by the way, even though it is digirno, jack makes it delivery, anyway, by throwing it around the world like a frisbee and catching the corner of the pizza box with the tip of his urethral opening).

Lastly, Jack can drive a tad over 9000 miles on a single gallon of gas in an H2 Hummer whereas Wolverine can barely get a mile out of an entire 15 gallon tank of gas on a bicycle that's double power assisted with: a .25hp 2 cycle engine and a Kenyan that just had a Redbull.

I have never heard of the asteroid feat.
If you can post a link to it that would be appreciated.
My argument is not who is faster or stronger. Because of Wolverine's healing factor it would be very hard for Jack to put him down for good.
That's why I think if the charged chi slash connects with Wolverine it would/should do massive damage.
But still Wolverine is hard to put down.

Wolverine vs Ragnarok (Thor Clone)

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/magneto4life/Dark%20Avengers/005.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/magneto4life/Dark%20Avengers/006.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/magneto4life/Dark%20Avengers/007.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/magneto4life/Dark%20Avengers/008.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/magneto4life/Dark%20Avengers/009.jpg

Jack would have to lay it on him like that and even worse to put him out.

Originally posted by mastagambit
I have never heard of the asteroid feat.
If you can post a link to it that would be appreciated.
My argument is not who is faster or stronger. Because of Wolverine's healing factor it would be very hard for Jack to put him down for good.
That's why I think if the charged chi slash connects with Wolverine it would/should do massive damage.
But still Wolverine is hard to put down.

Wolverine vs Ragnarok (Thor Clone)

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/magneto4life/Dark%20Avengers/005.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/magneto4life/Dark%20Avengers/006.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/magneto4life/Dark%20Avengers/007.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/magneto4life/Dark%20Avengers/008.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/magneto4life/Dark%20Avengers/009.jpg

Jack would have to lay it on him like that and even worse to put him out.

Originally posted by Blight
Jack does not have that form of attack (Lightning OR Massive concussive force) so I don't see how it applies to a win for Jack.

I bet his chi charged attack does.

You bet or it does? And which one? Was the feat of him using a chi strike posted here?

NVM I'll just watch the episode if I can find it in my dvd's.

Originally posted by Blight
Jack does not have that form of attack (Lightning OR Massive concussive force) so I don't see how it applies to a win for Jack.

Take away the lightning, and wouldn't the blunt force trauma be enough to put him down?

Originally posted by mastagambit
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f253/magneto4life/Dark%20Avengers/007.jpg

Geez, he can't have hit him that hard, he wasn't thrown back at all by that hit despite being in midair.

Originally posted by cdtm
Take away the lightning, and wouldn't the blunt force trauma be enough to put him down?

But getting Mjolner'd (If that's Mjolner) in the face Is not the same as being cut by a chi sword. Has someone posted the Chi attack yet? Or at least some episode information so I can find it?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Geez, he can't have hit him that hard, he wasn't thrown back at all by that hit despite being in midair.

What Part of Krakaboom don't you understand?