Wolverine vs Samurai Jack

Originally posted by Blight
Wolverine is pretty fast:

Here he is kicking a rocket out of the way after the button has been pressed.
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3616/captang6zk5.jpg

Here he dodges automatic gunfire:
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4942/76519loganuke2tj4.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3962/76525loganuke3jt3.jpg

Here he dodges automatic gunfire at near point blank
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3648/autododgedw2.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8318/autododge2ux7.jpg

One of these members shooting guns thinks he connected. Wrong:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9949/bullets8ou1.jpg

Who's saying he can't dodge gunfire?
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8499/xmenv2133p03gm1.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6867/bulletsidestepkq1.jpg

Here daredevil literally says he's dodging bullets as it's happening:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2002/ddbulletdodgekh3.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/51/ddbulletdodge2kw2.jpg

Here he's pretty fast as well:
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/9586/linusiq2.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1686/bulletstop2ok2.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9029/bulletstop3fm3.jpg

Psylocke's mind can barely follow a fight between Sabretooth and Wolvering
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8915/sabesab5.jpg

Wolverine doesn't usually bother with dodging or blocking bullets because they might as well be spit balls relative to his damage soak, but he is very fast:

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5779/trancei.jpg

Orphan Maker fires his gun at Trance. As clearly shown in the panel Wolverine moves after the bullets leave the gun, and shields Trance with his body.

Originally posted by Blight

Who's saying he can't dodge gunfire?
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8499/xmenv2133p03gm1.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6867/bulletsidestepkq1.jpg

The thing is, a scan like this makes it impossible to judge whether he's just keeping ahead of the gunmans aim (Which any street can do), or keeping up with a bullet.

Now that's a bullet time feat. Matrix style. 😄

Originally posted by cdtm
The thing is, a scan like this makes it impossible to judge whether he's just keeping ahead of the gunmans aim (Which any street can do), or keeping up with a bullet.

Now that's a bullet time feat. Matrix style. 😄

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine doesn't usually bother with dodging or blocking bullets because they might as well be spit balls relative to his damage soak, but he is very fast:

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5779/trancei.jpg

Orphan Maker fires his gun at Trance. As clearly shown in the panel Wolverine moves after the bullets leave the gun, and shields Trance with his body.

I was merely showing speed, not the tanking of bullets, which he can easily do as well.

Originally posted by Blight
He didn't know the gunman was going to shoot. Are you implying he reacted to the speed of sound? Because that's a better feat and I'll take it mmm .

I was merely showing speed, not the tanking of bullets, which he can easily do as well.

I'm aware, and my example is much better speed feat than any of the ones you posted.

😎

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm aware, and my example is much better speed feat than any of the ones you posted.

😎

Originally posted by Blight
He didn't know the gunman was going to shoot. Are you implying he reacted to the speed of sound? Because that's a better feat and I'll take it mmm . Not to mention he instantly gets back to the dude from 20 or so feet away. No running panel or anything...

Wolverines a pro. Reacting to sudden attacks is nothing new for him. Plus, he has enhanced hearing, right? Guns usually make noise when you're handling them.

Originally posted by cdtm
Wolverines a pro. Reacting to sudden attacks is nothing new for him. Plus, he has enhanced hearing, right? Guns usually make noise when you're handling them.

Originally posted by Blight
Not if you count the instantaneous reply to the gun dodge in one of them mhm

My scan shows Wolverine outrunning bullets to their target, even though he moved after the gun was fired. 😎

Originally posted by Blight
Which would mean he's reacting at the speed of sound to a bullet.... mmm

No, it means he's reacting to the sound of the gun rattling in the gunmans hand, and reflexively jerking aside. 😛

Bullet time feats are pretty worthless on a "maybe".. They're like UFO's. Believe them, when you see them, or can argue that it's 100% impossible that it isn't anything but... ^_^

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
My scan shows Wolverine outrunning bullets to their target, even though he moved after the gun was fired. 😎

If Jack can power up his sword it's all over for Wolvie.
Question is how long does it take for him to do it?

Here is some ninja boasting about her speed and how she can kill in fractions of a second... and Wolverine blitzes her and kills all her back up before they can even react.

Originally posted by mastagambit
If Jack can power up his sword it's all over for Wolvie.
Question is how long does it take for him to do it?

Originally posted by Blight
What feats has a powered up sword accomplished?

Nothing that would suggest it could even scuff Wolverine's skeleton.

Someone should make an Adamantium respect thread. That way we know all its ins and outs.

Originally posted by Blight
Someone should make an Adamantium respect thread. That way we know all its ins and outs.

Primary Adamantium is indestructible outside of matter manipulation or magic.

Wolverine has matched blades with more than a dozen magic "can cut through anything" swords in his career. Even the Onyx Sword that is less than an atom thick and splices between molecules had no effect. That's not even taken into consideration the large variety of other attacks his skeleton has withstood in way of nukes, extremely powerful energy blasts and brute strength of the strongest characters in Marvel.

Jack having any effect on Wolverine's skeleton is laughable.

Yeah I know that Silver Samurai's magic "Cut Through Anything" tachyon powers always excepts Adamantium. However Carver is blazing up the WWH Vs. Ultron thread with his Secret Wars Hulk smashing apart Ultron when he was said to have been made out of Adamantium.

Originally posted by Blight
Yeah I know that Silver Samurai's magic "Cut Through Anything" tachyon powers always excepts Adamantium. However Carver is blazing up the WWH Vs. Ultron thread with his Secret Wars Hulk smashing apart Ultron when he was said to have been made out of Adamantium.

That was retcon'd with the invention of Secondary Adamantium. Wonder Man crushed Ultron's Adamantium chassis once too around that time frame, stuff like that is the reason Secondary Adamantium was created.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That was retcon'd with the invention of Secondary Adamantium. Wonder Man crushed Ultron's Adamantium chassis once too around that time frame, stuff like that is the reason Secondary Adamantium was created.

Ah, but:

Originally posted by Stoic
But his casing is still Primary Adamantium, and the Hulk of Secret Wars, warped his chassis to the point that Ultron was unable to continue physical combat. That again was the Hulk at a far lower level in terms of strength amplification. On top of it all, I don't believe that Marvel has upgraded ultron's CPU as it still only has a 14 terabyte HD on board. I wonder if Ultron even has redundant drives in the form of multi-threading. Marvel needs to give Ultron a serious upgrade, and have someone that knows tech do it.

Originally posted by Stoic
Primary adamantium is still primary adamantium, so unless the last Ultron had better body armor than primary adamantium... you see where this is going right? The Hulk has the feat under his belt, so arguing whether or not he can smash Ultron has already been decided on panel. Thor may not have been going all out or the Hulk might just have more hitting power.

Also this happens to be busiek's Ultron.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=563337&pagenumber=1

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's a rapids, rocks jutting up is par for the course. Wolverine is clearly swimming and dragging the piano behind him, he's doing the swimming motion with his arms and everything. It's a crazy feat.

That makes it just as much nonsense as Jack's water drop feat, then. Physical laws simply aren't being obeyed there. With the water pushing against the piano, and Wolverine having no leverage or anything other than more water to push off of, it's just an impossibility. You can't have Wolverine pushing off water with his tiny hands at the same time the piano's acting like a sail in the wind.

Wolverine is both faster and more skilled than Jack,

Jack has so far matched most of Wolverine's bullet dodges, and neither side has really posted any super skill feats. Though Jack has trained in Africa, China, Europe, Greece, and, naturally, Japan, and has mastered most forms of combat with a huge array of weapons.

and even if he wasn't Wolverine's damage soak is so far above Jack's damage output that the idea that Jack could put him down for the a 10 count is absurd. Wolverine routinely shrugs of haymakers from Marvels strongest characters. He took a dozen blows to the face from WWH before going down. His healing factor operates on a much higher level than anything Jack could hope to achieve. Wolverine losing this fight is an impossibility.

Hasn't he been knocked out by weaker character's too? And if Spiderman is able to fight him, Jack can, too. There's still the matter of Jack's martial arts stabbing Wolverine with his own claws, if you really think Jack can't hurt him.

Also Wolverine's hearing is better than Jacks. facepalm

I dunno, haven't seen any feats to that effect. Jack can fight archers while blindfolded, for instance, being able to dodge a rain of arrows by their sound alone. All I've really seen for Wolverine is his sense of smell.