Originally posted by mastagambit
There is nothing to substantiate that he can withstand it.
...
Except his entire collected history.
There is literally not a shred of evidence that would support your assertion that Jack "charging up" would even make Wolverine bat an eye lid. Jack cut up some robots.... big f@cking deal.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
...Except his entire collected history.
There is [b]literally
not a shred of evidence that would support your assertion that Jack "charging up" would even make Wolverine bat an eye lid. Jack cut up some robots.... big f@cking deal. [/B]
But that is the thing.
It is said that those robots were the strongest.
We have to go by what was depicted.
He had to charge up to defeat the last one.
You are downgrading Jack's ability and that is unfair.
It wasn't just some robots.
Originally posted by mastagambit
But that is the thing.
It is said that those robots were the strongest.
We have to go by what was depicted.
He had to charge up to defeat the last one.
You are downgrading Jack's ability and that is unfair.
It wasn't just some robots.
They were the strongest robots in Samurai Jack Universe. Woppty doo. How does that translate into them being having equal durability to Wolverine?
The strongest character in GI Joe is Road Pig... do you think Road Pig vs The Incredible Hulk is a even fight because they are both the strongest? It's not. They are two completely different universes, with completely different power scales. Comparing those robots to Marvel's adamantium is asinine.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
They were the strongest robots in Samurai Jack Universe. Woppty doo. How does that translate into them being having equal durability to Wolverine?The strongest character in GI Joe is Road Pig... do you think Road Pig vs The Incredible Hulk is a even fight because they are both the strongest? It's not. They are two completely different universes, with completely different power scales. Comparing those robots to Marvel's adamantium is asinine.
Well it actually proved the robots being strongest as in 'toughest' by having Jack channel all his inner chi to defeat it.
What happens if Logan gets a slice of that channeled slash?
That's what I am arguing.
You cannot state that the robot feat is a weak feat,or means nothing.
Originally posted by Robtard
Something deemed indestructible is just that. If Adamantium is "virtually indestructible" in the Marvel universe, it doesn't lose that aspect in another. ie Adamantium in Jack's universe, DC, Star Wars etc is still "virtually indestructible" in these match ups.
Guerrilla Glass is billed as "virtually indestructible," do you feel like it is the equal of Adamantium? Because I've broken Guerrilla Glass, and I'd love to know if I'm stronger than the Hulk via transitive properties.
Adamantium and more specifically Wolverine's skeleton has decades worth of feats under it's belt. The only feat the Robots Jack fought have is that originally he couldn't cut them... but then he did. Not everything billed as "virtually indestructible" is equal. Wolverine himself has broken out of allegedly indestructible shackles on more than one occasion using nothing but brute strength. There is no parity between these Robots, and Wolverine's skeleton. Marvel's Adamantium has decades of feats that justify it's status as an indestructible metal... anyone who thinks it's reasonable to but the Robots Jack sliced up on the same plateau as real Adamantium, is an idoit.
Originally posted by mastagambit
Well it actually proved the robots being strongest as in 'toughest' by having Jack channel all his inner chi to defeat it.
What happens if Logan gets a slice of that channeled slash?
That's what I am arguing.
You cannot state that the robot feat is a weak feat,or means nothing.
Nothing will happen if Wolverine gets sliced by that channeled slash, because he has an Unbreakable Adamantium Skeleton.
Originally posted by Robtard
Something deemed indestructible is just that. If Adamantium is "virtually indestructible" in the Marvel universe, it doesn't lose that aspect in another. ie Adamantium in Jack's universe, DC, Star Wars etc is still "virtually indestructible" in these match ups.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Guerrilla Glass is billed as "virtually indestructible," do you feel like it is the equal of Adamantium? Because I've broken Guerrilla Glass, and I'd love to know if I'm stronger than the Hulk via transitive properties.Adamantium and more specifically Wolverine's skeleton has decades worth of feats under it's belt. The only feat the Robots Jack fought have is that originally he couldn't cut them... but then he did. Not everything billed as "virtually indestructible" is equal. Wolverine himself has broken out of allegedly indestructible shackles on more than one occasion using nothing but brute strength. There is no parity between these Robots, and Wolverine's skeleton. Marvel's Adamantium has decades of feats that justify it's status as an indestructible metal... anyone who thinks it's reasonable to but the Robots Jack sliced up on the same plateau as real Adamantium, is an idoit.
Gorilla Glass = reality
Adamantium = fiction
Cartoon robots = fiction
See?
Originally posted by Blight
Not necessarily. Something has to have feats in order to be proved as indestructible.
Not sure why that is difficult to comprehend.
Wolverine's skeleton has decades worth of feats that validate it's indestructibility from forces that Samurai Jack couldn't even comprehend.
These robots or originally couldn't be cut by Jack's sword... but then they were. Seriously? What about that gives those random robots ANYWHERE NEAR the same level of durability as Wolverine's skeleton?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And?Is every fictional metal equal in your mind?
And you're comparing reality with fiction. Obviously Gorilla Glass isn't actually indestructible, it's bound to the rules of reality. Fictional metals and robots aren't bound by these laws.
If a fictional material is deemed "indestructible" it's just that. It's the creators pleasure.
Originally posted by Robtard
Something deemed indestructible is just that. If Adamantium is "virtually indestructible" in the Marvel universe, it doesn't lose that aspect in another. ie Adamantium in Jack's universe, DC, Star Wars etc is still "virtually indestructible" in these match ups.
Originally posted by Robtard
It took god magic intervention in order to cut/destroy that final boss robot. God magic's a pretty good feat.
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Originally posted by Robtard
And you're comparing reality with fiction. Obviously Gorilla Glass isn't actually indestructible, it's bound to the rules of reality. Fictional metals and robots aren't bound by these laws.If a fictional material is deemed "indestructible" it's just that. It's the creators pleasure.
What an illogical stance to take. There isn't a cross universal constant that equalizes all these objects. Just because something is indestructible in one universe doesn't mean it would be indestructible in another. Genndy didn't call up Marvel and say "Am about to say something is indestructible... let me know what your characters can do, so my creation will fall in the parameters of what your characters can do." The are completely separate entities. Something is indestructible in Samurai Jack U (not true... but roll with it)? That's fine... but Marvel U has destructive forces that Samurai Jack U couldn't even dream of. Adamantium has gone up against some of the most powerful forces in the universe and emerged unscathed. Those "indestructible robots" weren't even indestructible in the carebear Samurai Jack Universe, comparing it to Adamantium is laughable.
Originally posted by The Scenario
Is there additional context to explain why Wolverine was knocked unconscious by this?
That villain captured him and experimented on Wolverine to learn the limitations of his healing factor, threatening to kill a child if Wolverine tried to escape. Wolverine had pretty much gone through the ringer of every possible attack for days - weeks at that point to see how his healing factor worked.
