Originally posted by DarkSaint85When it comes to J'onn leading Bor around with illusions and Loki mindcontrolling/illusioning Superman, I was actually speaking more to the likelihood of occurrence in a fight, rather than the likelihood of success.
Superman has some feats of resisting illusions, right? Does Bor have any?
Needless to say, I don't J'onn is more likely to invade minds and use illusions/mind control than Loki will.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Lol, no. J'onn's telepathy =/= Loki's magic. Especially when it comes to Superman.
Not saying Bor is especially weak to illusions. But was just in answer to your question about which is more likely.And based on their histories, IMO its more likely Bor can be fooled than Superman.
Originally posted by carver9
Thor knows his own durability and Bor being able to kill Thor with a single hit is above anything on the JLA. You can't always base things off of Collateral damage. WBH showing was much more than that (collateral damage).
Thor's physical durability is MUCH lower than guys like Superman. Regular Thor probably would have been one shot killed by a lot of the stuff that Superman has survived.
I do agree that OF is a significant amp though.
The JLA is faster, and more diverse than the Asgard team. Thor and Bor make them work for it, but the JLA should win, albeit with some casualities.
^ People have tried to say the same about a cutting loose classic Thor (Celestials, Zeus, Glory, 1/5 universe buster, etc.). Because somehow there's on-panel evidence that OF Thor couldn't cut loose.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris😂
Thor's physical durability is MUCH lower than guys like Superman.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris😂 😂
Regular Thor probably would have been one shot killed by a lot of the stuff that Superman has survived.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris👆
I do agree that OF is a significant amp though.
Originally posted by PillarofOsirisSpeed and diversity would make it hella tough.
The JLA is faster, and more diverse than the Asgard team. Thor and Bor make them work for it, but the JLA should win, albeit with some casualities.
Cutting loose classic/non Odin Force Thor does shit like walk through "peers" and damage Skyfather and up beings.
And again, a cutting loose/no holding back/serious minded version of a character =/= same character with a significant stated and explicit amp. It's the same kind of backwards logic that had people claiming Classic Thor was > Odin Force Thor because of his high end feats and that WWH wasn't as impressive as Savage Hulk because he had better higher end feats.
Doesn't even begin to make any kind of sense.